31-08-2003 21:14									#1
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The RIAA's "sue 'em all" campaign briefly resulted in a 22% drop in file sharing, but at the same time, CD sales have plummeted by 9.4% and, "Specifically, curtailing file trading may not improve CD sales, but instead may accelerate their decline," US financial analyst Phil Leigh says.

The prepackaged CD format has "seen its best days," he states. "The transformation of recorded music sales from physical distribution to Internet distribution is inevitable."

Leigh, a Raymond James and Associates vp, is quoted in Britain's Macworld. The magazine doesn't say where Leigh's figures come from, and at the time of writing, there was nothing on the RJA site breaking it down.

But, "The initial data is [sic] not encouraging for the labels as it suggests that the fundamental premise underlying their deterrence strategy is flawed," Leigh says.

What to do?

The labels should, "continue their steps in the direction of friendly consumer-use licensing terms for their content to the legitimate Internet music distributors," he says and, adds Macworld, he, "predicts that once the labels enjoy profits from the new medium, then movie studios will be 'right behind them', predicting a second wave of legal distribution services."
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Just more evidence that the RIAA is clueless.

	31-08-2003 21:15									#2
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Well, if they make enough money off of lawsuits...

	31-08-2003 21:18									#3
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Not that I disagree with your view on RIAA, but a magazine article's quote of some guy's statement with no real data isn't exactly "evidence."

	31-08-2003 21:59									#4
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CD sales have been dropping though, so that's not unbelievable.

	31-08-2003 22:08									#5
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Yes, but they've been dropping for 10 years. The funny thing is the file sharing services have only been around for like 5 years. Several people have suggested the real reason for declining sales is that the RIAA is putting out much less music then it used to (I.E. fewer songs but each song ships in higher volumes) so individual buyers have fewer chances to find something they like.

	31-08-2003 22:45									#6
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Revenge on the goddam evil shithead lying cheating scumdog dowloader slime is more important than sales.

	31-08-2003 22:46									#7
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I've never really thought of myself as slime.

	31-08-2003 22:48									#8
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i'm more of a goo myself.

	31-08-2003 22:54									#9
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Those of you who have just willfully confessed to the horrific crime of downloading music have just been reported to the RIAA's Special Investigation and Interrogation unit, for your sins.

Of course, I would never do such a thing

	31-08-2003 22:56									#10
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Heck, I have two hard drives. It will only take me 5 minutes to swap the one with evidience on it to the clean one.

	31-08-2003 23:00									#11
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We need evidence now?


WITCH! WITCH!

	31-08-2003 23:30									#12
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Is a file-swapper heavier than a duck?

	31-08-2003 23:37									#13
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Depends on the duck.

	31-08-2003 23:42									#14
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Playing devil's advocate:

The drop in sales is probably due to piracy.

	31-08-2003 23:43									#15
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Prove it. Why did the drop in sales begin 5 years before online piracy did?

	01-09-2003 00:17									#16
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Online music piracy has existed since 1996 as far as I personally know.

	01-09-2003 00:19									#17
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Question: does the RIAA have any jurisdiction outside of America? In other words, can those of us who live in Europe simply thumb our noses to this 'threat'?

	01-09-2003 00:19									#18
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The RIAA has been the most clueless ever on this.

Why can't they see the damn trend and start figuring out how to profit off of it? When the movie studios stopped fighting videocassettes, they found they made TRIPLE what they were making on movies alone.

I mean this is like the biggest no brainer EVER.

DUH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	01-09-2003 00:20									#19
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Because I-Tunes is only a niche program. Until something like that comes to dominate, they'll have to crack down.

	01-09-2003 00:21									#20
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iTunes, BuyMusic, etc. will never catch on to make anything significant as long as they have so many restrictions for what you can do with the music you now own.

	01-09-2003 00:22									#21
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I mean but it's just too easy for them to create a service like that though. It's really that easy.

	01-09-2003 00:23									#22
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Yeah, but it is easier to have Apple or BuyMusic, or whoever, do the coding for you .

	01-09-2003 00:24									#23
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not sure i'm following

	01-09-2003 00:49									#24
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Well, you say it is easy for them to create a system. Isn't it easier for someone else to create a system and then back it? That way, you won't have to do it yourself, and perhaps mess up things. Have Apple and Buymusic compete over the best transfer system, and back all of them.

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quote: Originally posted by our_man Question: does the RIAA have any jurisdiction outside of America? In other words, can those of us who live in Europe simply thumb our noses to this 'threat'?

They have the same acess to courts as does any other company doing business in Europe. In some ways Europes law are more severe on the subject, in other ways less.

	01-09-2003 03:08									#26
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quote: Originally posted by our_man Question: does the RIAA have any jurisdiction outside of America? In other words, can those of us who live in Europe simply thumb our noses to this 'threat'?

Theorectically, if your country has an extradition treay with the USA, RIAA could ask ask for you be tried. In practice I think RIAA is concentrating solely on the US market.

	01-09-2003 03:16									#27
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Kassiopeia once said that "the Finnish version of the RIAA" had succesfully lobbied a tax on CD-Rs. Which really didn't do any more than create black markets for smuggled Russian, German etc. ones I think.

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quote: Originally posted by Asher Online music piracy has existed since 1996 as far as I personally know.

The drop in sales began in 1991 I believe.

	01-09-2003 03:48									#30
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quote: Originally posted by our_man Question: does the RIAA have any jurisdiction outside of America? In other words, can those of us who live in Europe simply thumb our noses to this 'threat'?

Pretty much. Though the RIAA says they're taking down the IP addresses of everyone they find trading music on line reguardless of national origin. They then inform the local authorities about illegal activities. It's then up to the local police to go after offenders and some nation's have not bothered. Other's have.