01-09-2003 12:03									#31
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Ted,

If you consider that post lengthy and complex, you obviously have never seen people with real problems.

	01-09-2003 12:06									#32
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If you say so...

	01-09-2003 12:09									#33
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Ted: He is right.

Ari: My brother has a highly modified version of xgalaga. Want it?
Mirrormagic Great logic game.
Chromium Entirely mouse driven and letting one enemy by means instant death.
JumpnBump How did you get it to compile?
KoboDeluxe How far have you gotten?
Construo
Nethack I need to get off my adze and build that.
Rocks n Diamonds
lbreakout
xWelltris

BTW-- If I were you I would organize that folder.

Edit: Checked and yes, I still have the modified version of xgalaga.

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	01-09-2003 12:11									#34
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My lawd

Your guys' perspective is so out of touch with the common man it is literally disturbing.

That's why Linux continues to suck on the desktop

	01-09-2003 12:21									#35
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geeslaka: Eh, I should set my default prompt to include the whole path I'm at... that's /usr/portage/app-games, and includes all of the packages of that category that exist in the official Portage ( = Gentoo's package manager) tree... and about xgalaga, well, I'll see if I can be bothered if I happen to emerge and play it some day... and BTW, it's already being/been organised...

	01-09-2003 12:52									#36
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Oh. That explains it. As for the modified xgal, my brother rewrote the cannon code so that it no longer stops at five shot and we added numerous prizes, some of which might not have been finished before we lost interest.

	01-09-2003 17:11									#38
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quote: KoboDeluxe How far have you gotten?

Level 23... the impossible one

Linux gaming sucks, though, as is the case with much of Linux on the desktop, it is rapidly improving.

	01-09-2003 17:39									#39
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I agree that linux sucks for games.

I use linux (gnome) at work (using it now in fact) but I use windows at home for games.

	01-09-2003 19:25									#40
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Not to linux developers: I don't want to have to go into the command line for help. I want a frickin' LIBRARY, dammit . And not something like mozillas help: "This text will be addded later" in 1.4 spam filtering... WTF??

And how hard is it to create a good looking GUI?

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	01-09-2003 19:32									#41
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command line help is indeciferable anyways.

	01-09-2003 19:54									#42
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I'll have to send Jan Hubicka an email out of the blue about joining the Command Line Brotherhood...

	01-09-2003 21:01									#43
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elijah: Yeah, that level had me stopped for two weeks, but it's nothing compared to 50.

MattH: Is that supposed to say "Note"? The command line is not some dark and scary room where unseen things jab at you with indescribable devices.

skywalker: What specifically makes you think it indecipherable?

	01-09-2003 21:01									#44
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I am completely the other way round when using linux. I do everything from the command line. I hate having to use the mouse, nad drag and drop and stuff - what a pain in the arse that is.

(It is probably just that I am not tidy enough - it takes me bloody ages to find the files using the GUI - but since I always know what it is called, I can manipulate it via the command line much more easily.)

	01-09-2003 22:56									#45
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Not tidy enough? How about me?

ari@p166-124 ari $ pwd
/home/ari
ari@p166-124 ari $ ls -l|wc
490 3970 37226
ari@p166-124 ari $ du|wc
du: cannot change to directory `./the_clit/clit12/drm5': Permission denied (grah, Convert LIT unpacked to seriously screwed up permissions)
7602 15264 319911

I sometimes do excavations in my $HOME because it's such a treasure trove of weird downloaded crap...

	02-09-2003 01:59									#46
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I know to use info and man, I just don't see why I have too. Why isn't there a good searchable in-program list of solutions?

And can anybody point me to a good list/manual of simple command line options, like copy, paste, c&p folder, new folder, etc.? And the usual newbie question: WHERE DO I CONFIGURE PPP?

	02-09-2003 02:58									#47
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Konqueror is good for n00b file browsing. Just type the path into the location bar. But, do not use Konqueror's Archiver for untarring files. If the tarball is too big(I am unsure of the exact limit, more than 10MB I think) it will be turned to garbage. I lost a backup tarball that way. Use "tar -xzf tarball_name.extension". Replace the z with a j if it is a bz2 tarball. Also, Konqueror's Archiver cannot be used to create tarballs, it doesn't work. Use "tar -cjf tarball_name.bz2 file_or_dir_to_be_tarred other_file_or_dir".

	02-09-2003 03:54									#48
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I think I'll just stick to clicking my way around, geeks

	02-09-2003 09:09									#49
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word

	02-09-2003 13:44									#50
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ari has a directory called "the_clit"?

Ah, requesting access to "the_clit" and having permission denied. I know the feeling well.

	02-09-2003 13:49									#51
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quote: Originally posted by Asher Good God, look how f*cking hideous that is. Reminds me of a slightly imrpvoed Windows 3.1.

Funny, that's exactly how I feel when I look at XP.

	02-09-2003 14:15									#52
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet ari has a directory called "the_clit"? Ah, requesting access to "the_clit" and having permission denied. I know the feeling well.

It's not my fault if people give weird names to their software...

	08-09-2003 04:16									#53
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Ari:
Thanks for the advice. I couldn't answer before because this was a busy week, but I worked again on my Linux.

After a few hours, I finally managed to mount my NTFS drive, and I was at last able to install my video drivers. I learned quite a few things in the process about Linux... Gosh, none of my non-geek friends will ever have their personal computer under Linux until a professional group devotes energy to make many things simple.

Some Installers require text mode to work (I only learned by chance you had to change your /etc/inittab and reboot to do that). An operation as trivial as installing a game is a nightmare because of the hundreds of libs that are needed and that aren't present in the installer... I still can't understand why ordinary softwares like XMMS or games need to "compile" in order to install. And I still don't know what package I should install to have the compilation work flawlessly...

Yet, now that I progressed in understanding Linux, I'll reinstall my RedHat 9 again with all packages, on a bigger partition (since I can't make a swap partition, I'll add this space in my Linux part). I still hope I can one day try the seemingly promising games like Parsec and Planeshift. And I'm damn glad I could finally install a SNES emulator.

However, I hate to install my games in the /usr/games directory or anything like that. Is it possible to install them in /home/spiff/games/ without problems, or do I have to install them in the unwanted directory ?

Thanks for your answers and your help

	08-09-2003 04:18									#54
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spiff why are you torturing yourself with all this?

	08-09-2003 08:01									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Ted Striker spiff why are you torturing yourself with all this?

I'm a curious person. If so many people torture them with Linux, ther MUST be a reason why

More seriously, now that I solved both problems, Linux is a satisfying OS, as long as I don't try to install anything

Actually, I love the open-source spirit behind Linux, and that's why I'm attracted to this OS. Now, if more people in the community became involved in user-friendliness, I'd definitely prefer Linux over Windows, if only because there is not this pestering obligation to buy all your software, or to "turnaround" it

Gah, while writing this post, I have just noticed something else that must have not struck a geek's mind: repetitve keys aren't a default (I mean, when you press "backspace" for long, it still counts as only one press )

	08-09-2003 08:18									#56
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But Spiff, the reason why Linux isn't user-friendly is because the people who develop software do it for their fellow geeks.

Many geeks hate Windows simply because it is user friendly. If Linux became user friendly, the geeks would need another elitist OS to flock to.

	08-09-2003 08:25									#57
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Spiff

give it up! What are you getting out of Linux that can't get out of Windows < the bother?

Linux, it's not big and its not clever, so stop showing off you MS rebels!!!!

	08-09-2003 08:29									#58
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There is somethiing good I get from Linuux that I won't get from windows...

When reinstalling RedHat for the 3rd time this week, I had once again NOT to enter some registration code or crap like that, unlike what I'd do if I reinstalled windows

	08-09-2003 08:32									#59
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But you had to reinstall it three times in one week.

You get what you pay for. Trite, but true.

	08-09-2003 08:35									#60
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Well, since I act as the "computer expert" for my classmates, I'm confronted quite often to windows headaches too.

The only difference between windows and Linux is that Win gives headaches when there is a problem. Linux gives headaches when everything is perfectly fine