03-09-2003 00:19									#1
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I want playable Phoenicians, Moche, Olmecs, and Toltecs.

	03-09-2003 01:32									#2
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	03-09-2003 01:49									#3
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Platina edition in 2 years?

	03-09-2003 03:16									#4
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Not possible without removing a civ. 31 civs is the hardcoded max.

	03-09-2003 16:51									#5
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quote: Originally posted by skywalker Not possible without removing a civ. 31 civs is the hardcoded max.

Perhaps that will change in a third expansion pack. If Conquests sells well, and deserves to do so, then why not?

	03-09-2003 20:53									#6
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Hardcoded means, it would require some effort to rewrite the game to handle more. I do not see why they could not have any number they want in the game, but limit the number of active to say 31. Then you could have a pool of 60 civs and use up 31 at any one time.
Having played with 24, I do not want to have even 31 in my game, but that is just me.

	03-09-2003 23:09									#7
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I'd like the Assyrians, and Israelites, but that's just me.

Refresh my memory, are the Moche, Olmecs, and Totecs in MesoAmerica? At least they will be in one of the scenarios. The Phoenicians are in the Mesopotamian Scenario to enjoy.

But Assyria and Israel are nowhere to be found.

	04-09-2003 20:38									#8
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Toltecs are a Mesoamerican civs, from which it's possible that the Aztecs appeared. At least, the Aztecs spoke their language (Nahuatl, IIRC). They have very heavy influence on Mayans, too.

Not so sure about the Moche, I think they were more to the South of Mexico, though...

Olmecs were also in Mexico, but they are way more ancient than the Aztecs, their culture being BC. It's possible that they were the first of cultures in the area to develop hieroglyphical writing.

That's all I remember from the top of my head.

	04-09-2003 20:58									#9
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In the screenshots of the MesoAmerican Scenario, they show the Incas sacrificing a captured Moche worker to the gods.

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it is sounding good

	07-09-2003 08:45									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Louis XXIV I'd like the Assyrians, and Israelites, but that's just me. Refresh my memory, are the Moche, Olmecs, and Totecs in MesoAmerica? At least they will be in one of the scenarios. The Phoenicians are in the Mesopotamian Scenario to enjoy. But Assyria and Israel are nowhere to be found.

Should Israelites get "Ark of the Covenant" instead of ICBMs??

	07-09-2003 18:51									#12
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO Should Israelites get "Ark of the Covenant" instead of ICBMs??

what kind of a joke is that , ........

	07-09-2003 21:47									#13
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Panag, I'm assuming that he is making reference to the Indiana Jones version of history.

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Panag that's exactly what I was thinking

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quote: Originally posted by WarpStorm Panag, I'm assuming that he is making reference to the Indiana Jones version of history.

hi ,

yeah right , .......


maybe as a small wonder yes , but the rest aint that funny for any religious Jew , ........


have a nice day

	09-09-2003 05:10									#16
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The moche are south american civ, and were located in what is now northern peru. They left behind quite a bit of impressive archetecture (for unfired mud brick), art, pottery, and gold objects.

	09-09-2003 07:23									#17
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If there is another XP, I don't want any more civs.

I think you reach a point of diminishing returns, and certainly, as far as Europe and the middle east is concerned, those areas are so over-represented adding new civs won't add anythign new, except for a leaderhead and a marginally unique UU. The game has also run out of room for really unique UUs.

IF THERE IS ANOTHER XP, I want an expansion of the game. Improved trade, improved diplomacy, working UN, overhauled AI in certain areas such as naval warfare. All of which we're unlikely to see in Conquests.

	09-09-2003 21:34									#18
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If they're going to do the same mess with translated expansions that appeared recently, please stop that now

	10-09-2003 13:10									#19
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quote: Originally posted by dexters overhauled AI in certain areas such as naval warfare.

Rumors say we will get that.

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quote: Originally posted by dexters IF THERE IS ANOTHER XP, I want an expansion of the game. Improved trade, improved diplomacy, working UN, overhauled AI in certain areas such as naval warfare. All of which we're unlikely to see in Conquests.

I have to admit I'm already disappointed that C3C won't include improvements to diplomacy and the U.N. If you would have asked me what the next XP should include after PTW was released, I would have said these two things. Far less people (small percentage) who own Civ3 will utilize scenarios than improved diplomacy and the U.N. (everyone). I would have even settled for unit trading and a SMAC-style U.N.

	11-09-2003 02:42									#21
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quote: Originally posted by dexters If there is another XP, I don't want any more civs. I think you reach a point of diminishing returns, and certainly, as far as Europe and the middle east is concerned, those areas are so over-represented adding new civs won't add anythign new, except for a leaderhead and a marginally unique UU. The game has also run out of room for really unique UUs. IF THERE IS ANOTHER XP, I want an expansion of the game. Improved trade, improved diplomacy, working UN, overhauled AI in certain areas such as naval warfare. All of which we're unlikely to see in Conquests.

hi ,

the middle east is over-represented , ........

more civs are always welcome , even if it was just to choose from

bye