14-09-2003 21:18									#91
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quote: Originally posted by PLATO What would be the point of having a post count? When I am looking for advice on something to do with a CIV game, then the guy who has "diety" under his name gets a bit more scruitiny than the guy who has "settler". Likewise, when we are talking about the community here, I pay more attention to the same because I know he has been around here a while and should be closer in touch with the pulsebeat of this community. If a "settler" starts saying change this and change that, is anyone going to really listen? If a "diety" does it then it at least gets a good read and a little thought from me. I think that post counts and titles are a good thing. One of the reasons we have mods with PCR power is to make sure that a spammer doesn't reach those levels simply through spamming.

Well most of the emperors and Deities here, got their titles by posting in the Off Topic or democracy game forums. Neither of which can be said to give them any credibility in game related matters. But I see where you're coming from

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	14-09-2003 21:27									#92
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You forget that most of the deities and emperors were originally on topic posters... and while yes, some of their posts came from the OTF, the majority are hard core gamers who have been here a long time.

	14-09-2003 21:37									#93
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Yeah....it may be that I'm looking at it through the wrong glasses. When I registered at Apolyton, there wasn't much going on, except in the Off topic, SMAC and Civ 2 forums, with off topic (most notably the coffee shop) being a major source for +1's. But sure, everybody here, including myself are gamers.

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	15-09-2003 00:46									#94
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Yes, many of us were posting on-topic totally unaware that the OTF even existed. I didn't visit there until probably a year after I started here. But then CIV II forums were hot back then.

	15-09-2003 02:41									#95
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quote: Originally posted by Ming You forget that most of the deities and emperors were originally on topic posters... and while yes, some of their posts came from the OTF, the majority are hard core gamers who have been here a long time.

Some of them got hurt by taking a sabbatical for several months before the policy changed.

	15-09-2003 02:42									#96
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BTW, I can remember when Ming mostly hung in the on-topic and was rare in the OT.

	15-09-2003 03:19									#97
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and that must be where he got all his posts from: on topic spam!

	15-09-2003 04:56									#98
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His posting rate went way up after starting to moderate. And so did his OT prescence. But I thought then and still do, that Ming was a brilliant choice for moderator. It was a different thing back then. Very hard for anyone to be accepted as a mod. The resistance is long broken now. But at that time, it was very laissez faire.

	15-09-2003 05:09									#99
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Yea, the resistance is so broken that I can be a mod.

	15-09-2003 05:26									#100
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quote: Well most of the emperors and Deities here, got their titles by posting in the Off Topic or democracy game forums.

Not really. Many of the newer Emperors and Kings got their post count mostly from on-topic discussion of Civ3 and games released since then that were covered by this site.

	15-09-2003 05:31									#101
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quote: Originally posted by rah Yea, the resistance is so broken that I can be a mod.

It's more like we've finally seduced you into the open. Ming was quicker to hang with the OT sluts.

	15-09-2003 10:11									#103
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quote: Originally posted by rah I think it did, but no scientific research to prove it.

The style of threads certainly changed, but I'm not so sure about the overall volume declining that much.

quote: You did stop seeing as many threads that consisting of 100's of one word responses.

That strikes me more as a moderation issue than as a spam post count issue. If all mods left the OT for a week (or maybe even less) I think you'd come back to lots of pointless spam like that.

	15-09-2003 12:07									#104
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quote: Originally posted by Big Crunch That strikes me more as a moderation issue than as a spam post count issue. If all mods left the OT for a week (or maybe even less) I think you'd come back to lots of pointless spam like that.

Agreed. Area 25, and, to a lesser degree, Area 19 proved that given the chance to spam, posters will do so. Not all posters, to be sure. But enough that the forum will experience a change of culture.

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	15-09-2003 12:34									#105
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But posts in those areas counted, so that doesn't prove that posters will spam for spam's sake as opposed to spam for +1's.

	15-09-2003 17:55									#106
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quote: Originally posted by Big Crunch The style of threads certainly changed, but I'm not so sure about the overall volume declining that much. quote: You did stop seeing as many threads that consisting of 100's of one word responses.

That was what I was thinking when I thought the overall volume had decreased. But if you took those out, you're probably correct in saying it didn't decline too much.

quote: Originally posted by Big Crunch That strikes me more as a moderation issue than as a spam post count issue. If all mods left the OT for a week (or maybe even less) I think you'd come back to lots of pointless spam like that.

Yes, agreed, and it wouldn't take a week.

RAH

	15-09-2003 18:53									#107
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns quote: Well most of the emperors and Deities here, got their titles by posting in the Off Topic or democracy game forums. Not really. Many of the newer Emperors and Kings got their post count mostly from on-topic discussion of Civ3 and games released since then that were covered by this site.

Tbh I doubt there is more than a handful of emperors who have not, at one time or another, been heavily into at least one Civ game.

	15-09-2003 19:21									#108
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I'd say less than only 15% of my counted posts were in the OT. And that wasn't till much later.

	15-09-2003 19:54									#109
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quote: democracy game forums. Neither of which can be said to give them any credibility in game related matters.

Demogamers have to be good with whatever game they play. Without credibility, a minister would never keep his position.

Look at what happened with our second president, both inexperienced with Demogames, and with Civ2.

I think you need to look more closely at the Demogamers to see our contribution to the forums. You may even stay.

	15-09-2003 20:08									#110
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I didn't mean that those who participate in democracy games aren't good at the games they play. I only meant that the fact that you play democracy games doesn't nescessarily mean that you are great!! at the game in question. That's all.

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	15-09-2003 20:18									#111
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It's the guys in the Demo games who ONLY post things like "sounds good to me" that you have to worry about

	15-09-2003 20:26									#112
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For some posters, that would be considered wordy.

	15-09-2003 20:29									#113
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so true... so true...

	16-09-2003 06:14									#114
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Or those posters who's post mainly consist of smili...
Er, um...

	16-09-2003 09:51									#115
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	16-09-2003 10:55									#116
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^^^You can't get any less wordy than that.

	16-09-2003 14:23									#117
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I've always said BC had nothing to say.

	16-09-2003 14:59									#118
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper ^^^You can't get any less wordy than that.

Well he could have posted without his sig

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	16-09-2003 18:02									#119
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so where is this thread going?

	16-09-2003 21:03									#120
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I see it leading to PCRs.