24-09-2003 13:46									#181
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Or just look at Asmodean's post

Asmodean

	25-09-2003 14:28									#182
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getting slightly schizoid now, As?

	25-09-2003 18:41									#183
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I think he might be..

	25-09-2003 19:02									#184
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Nah...I was just my way of letting Ming know that he had stepped on my toes. But that it was okay, 'cause in this case I deserved it

Asmodean

	25-09-2003 19:53									#185
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Hmmm, would it have really mattered it you deserved it or not.

	25-09-2003 21:04									#186
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Park Avenue, which post were you referring to?

	25-09-2003 21:08									#187
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Yours, I'd imagine.

	25-09-2003 21:11									#188
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But are you sure?

	25-09-2003 21:46									#189
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What else could he be referring to?

My oh my, look how far OT we have become here. I see lot's of spam sharks in the waters now. What was that Ming? You think I'm one of them?

	25-09-2003 21:48									#190
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One of them? If there are any spam sharks here, you're their leader.

	25-09-2003 23:13									#191
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quote: Originally posted by rah Hmmm, would it have really mattered it you deserved it or not.

Probably not.

Although I like to imagine that he is a polite person, even though he is a mod

But you are a better judge of that than I am.

Asmodean

	26-09-2003 01:16									#192
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First, let me say it's good to see that Chris 62 has tastefully backed out of this thread.

When I first looked at this thread, I gave it little thought, since similar discussions happen around the site from time to time. But I noticed the over 1300 Views and 190 Replies. That made me curious, so I did a post count by name within the thread.

Names appear in the order they first appeared in the thread. Top Spammers, er, Most Prolific Posters are in BOLD.

Chris 62 -- 3
Skanky Burns -- 10
ixnay -- 1
Frozzy -- 5
Asmodean -- 25
geeslaka -- 5
Asuka -- 1
DrSpike -- 18
Solver -- 1
rah -- 32 (except we all know that, by definition, mods can't spam. )
Oerdin -- 2
alva -- 1
Harry Seldon -- 3
mrmitchell -- 1
skywalker -- 1
Verto -- 2
Ming -- 10 {another Mod exception (sigh)}
Tuberski -- 1
Plato -- 2
spartak -- 1
Gatekeeper -- 5
TCO -- 15
Qilue -- 5
badams52 -- 3
Alex -- 1
Big Crunch -- 7
Ben Kenobi -- 6
MichaeltheGreat -- 1
Comrade Tassadar -- 1
Ecthylion -- 9
atawa -- 2
Master Zen -- 4
Defcon5 -- 1
Nuclear Master -- 1
flipside -- 1
Rob_S -- 2
Rhothaerill -- 1
Park Avenue -- 1

Total number of posts = 191
Number of posters = 38
Average # of posts per person = 5.02
Percentage of posts from the 7 people in BOLD = 119/191 = 62.3
Percentage of posts from Mods (incl 1 from Solver) = 43/191 = 22.5%
Percentage of total from the 11 ppl with at least "average" (5+ posts) activity in thread = 79.6% (80% rule)
Posters with only 1 or 2 posts = 21/38 = 55.3% (acutally, 22/39 = 56.4% when this goes up)

Not sure what this all means, but if nothing else, thought a few facts might stimulate meaningful discussion of spam as defined by post count (vs. content).

Of course, we expect to see that discussion carried on primarily by the spammers...
And no, I did not count Chris 62 as a Mod...

(Edited for spelling, typos, and to add a stat or two.
Shouldn't meaningful additions like that deserve a +1??)

Last edited by -Jrabbit on 26-09-2003 at 02:01

	26-09-2003 01:24									#193
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I'm just glad I'm only third.

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	26-09-2003 01:30									#194
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Seems rah has little cause to take potshots at the demogamers.

If I'm lucky, I might get that many posts in a week on the Civ2DG.

	26-09-2003 01:35									#195
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I would expect mods to have high post counts in a lot of threads in this forum since people are asking questions or just trying to get clarification on things. Who else will officially answer these questions, or warn the spammers? The obvious answer is staff members.

RAH
Thank you for letting me help clarify this issue.

	26-09-2003 02:03									#196
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Hmmm.... I wonder if JRabbit actually wasted his time counting them instead of just clicking on the number of posts and cutting and pasting like this...

Total Posts: 195
User Posts
rah 33
Asmodean 25
DrSpike 19
TCO 15
Ming 10
Skanky Burns 10
Ecthelion 9
Big Crunch 7
Ben Kenobi 7
Gatekeeper 5
Frozzy 5
geeslaka 5
Qilue 5
Master Zen 4
Harry Seldon 3
Chris 62 3
badams52 3
Rob_S 2
atawa 2
Verto 2
PLATO 2
Oerdin 2
Tuberski 1
alva 1
Asuka 1
Park Avenue 1
Comrade Tassadar 1
Rhothaerill 1
Solver 1
-Jrabbit 1
Alex 1
mrmitchell 1
MichaeltheGreat 1
Defcon5 1
Nuclear Master 1
skywalker 1
flipside 1
spartak 1
ixnay 1

Hmmmm... based on the order he posted the names in, I bet he actually counted them by hand....

This took about 3 seconds... how long did it take you JR?

Next time JR... learn how to do it the easy way

	26-09-2003 02:09									#197
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Yeah, Spike got me on that once too. Now I know better.

	26-09-2003 02:21									#198
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Nope. Bored at work during a late lunch.

Did it the stupid (well, technically, just uninformed) way.

	26-09-2003 02:41									#199
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That doesn't work in the light style though. Alas.

And for a "prolific spammer" as it were, I'm not doing too well - although I am still equal with Ming. That in itself is an achievement.

	26-09-2003 02:43									#200
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quote: Who else will officially answer these questions,

So that's why this thread is still open, eh? Still trying to answer the question?

	26-09-2003 02:44									#201
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quote: Originally posted by rah I would expect mods to have high post counts in a lot of threads in this forum since people are asking questions or just trying to get clarification on things. Who else will officially answer these questions, or warn the spammers? The obvious answer is staff members.

Slipperier than an slippery eel with extra slippery slippery oil.

	26-09-2003 02:51									#202
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Well, of course it is possible to have a high post count in a thread, without spamming it (depending on what definition you use for spam).

I seem to be the most posting non-mod in this thread. I just went over all my posts in this thread again. Nearly all of them are on-topic.

Asmodean

	26-09-2003 02:55									#203
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi So that's why this thread is still open, eh? Still trying to answer the question?

This has always been a hot topic, and people like to get their two cents in on it. This is just one of many threads that have been started on it. I usually leave them open until an Owner makes an appearence, or until it turns into a total spam fest.

I used to be a big supporter of including OT posts... But MarkG was right... The spam level in the OT dropped a lot. Yeah, there is still tons of spam compared to the on topic forums... (well, maybe not compared to this forum or the Demo Game Forums ) but it did decrease. The Coffee shop used to get to 500 posts in a matter of days... now, you have to look hard to find it. Notice we don't see word association threads... or any of the other pure spam threads that people used to +1 or in some cases +10 in.

And as far as the staff posting in threads like this... Mark and Dan are busy... and have long to do lists when they have time to spend on this site. While Dan will usually make a nightly check to answer questions... sometimes he can't. The staff members, as well as many of the regular posters... pretty much know the standard answers... since we have seen the owners post them often enough. Just trying to do our part while Mark is off doing his military thing, and Dan pays attention to the things only he can do.

	26-09-2003 03:01									#204
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Slipperier than an slippery eel with extra slippery slippery oil.

And what's your excuse? None is the correct answer.

	26-09-2003 08:56									#205
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That's not true. He has an excellent excuse.

Moth to a flame.

	26-09-2003 10:28									#206
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Don't be so quick to judge, BC.
Afterall, you were moderated recently.

	26-09-2003 11:06									#207
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quote: This is just one of many threads that have been started on it. I usually leave them open until an Owner makes an appearence, or until it turns into a total spam fest.

Just because there is an attempt to make posts coherant doesn't mean a thread isn't a spam fest .

	26-09-2003 11:24									#208
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quote: Originally posted by Ming I usually leave them open until an Owner makes an appearence, or until it turns into a total spam fest.

I'm quite surprised to see this thread amazingly doesn't qualify under that definition!

(Oh yes, I guess it's because of the deep and profound level of philosophical content in each post...case in point the slippery eel comment )

	26-09-2003 11:38									#209
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I think it is just to throw us peons a +1 spam thread .

	26-09-2003 13:32									#210
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Top spammer, me? Un-possible!