11-09-2003 03:52									#61
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Excuse me, PECUSA?

	11-09-2003 04:59									#62
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Our new PP is Polish, one of John Paul's own, capital C conservative. Bit of a culture clash developing with us half hearted liberal Aussie catholics.

It would probably be worse if we could understand half of what he said through his thick Polish accent.

	11-09-2003 15:26									#63
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so what about circumcision these days?

	11-09-2003 15:58									#64
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion so what about circumcision these days?

Went out in Biblical times (St Paul and the Numidian charioteer?).

Hell of a strange way to pay for a lift... then again, hitchhiking is a strange business.

IIRC, Catholic confirmation consists of the full creed (Do you reject Satan? Etc), getting a little oil rubbed on the head (presumably to make it easier to insert up your own back passage) and then a "normal" Catholic service.

	11-09-2003 16:07									#65
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Eating Fish on Fridays was a political decision to aid the fishiing industry it agian has nothing to do with scripture

	11-09-2003 17:10									#66
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is it true that when Jewish kids are circed, the guy doing it sucks blood out of their pee?

	11-09-2003 18:43									#67
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we'll probably never know

	11-09-2003 19:28									#68
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we could ask them. but will they tell the truth?

	12-09-2003 10:42									#69
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Bump for Dr. S

What is the PECUSA?

I've never heard of the term.

	12-09-2003 12:55									#70
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Cruddy

quote: IIRC, Catholic confirmation consists of the full creed (Do you reject Satan? Etc), getting a little oil rubbed on the head (presumably to make it easier to insert up your own back passage) and then a "normal" Catholic service.

ROTFL

<--- Dancing Bananas

So anyway, BK, you're considering moving from anabaptist to papacy. You have already moved from Anglican (the Protestant version of Catholicism) to Mennonite.

If you're looking for spiritual freedom of discourse, aren't you heading in the wrong direction?

I know a really nice Scientologist in Vancouver that I'm sure I could convince to mentor you ....

	12-09-2003 13:10									#71
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and give you electric shocks which probably would make you bleed from your willy

	12-09-2003 15:05									#72
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My thoughts exactly, AH

	02-10-2003 03:36									#73
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quote: If you're looking for spiritual freedom of discourse, aren't you heading in the wrong direction?

I don't think I ever looked for spiritual freedom, but rather a church where God seemed present. I've seen that in my Mennonite church, and not in the Anglican church that I left. I wanted a faith that I could call my own.

As for my current desire, it has more to do with my girlfriend, and her family. I have seen how much joy she has had growing up in a Catholic family, that I do not want to pull her away from that should the time come for us to make a decision.

I don't know if it would be easier for us for me to stay in my church or to join hers, but that is something I want to find out.

I've gone to the first session, some very interesting testimonies.

	02-10-2003 03:40									#74
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Excuse me, PECUSA?

Protestant Episcopal Church of the United States of America.

	02-10-2003 03:42									#75
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion is it true that when Jewish kids are circed, the guy doing it sucks blood out of their pee?

OMG! What a German thing to say!

	02-10-2003 03:49									#76
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quote: Protestant Episcopal Church of the United States of America.

Thanks Dr. S.

	02-10-2003 23:35									#77
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Well Ben, happy to see you'll be part of the collective soon.

I joined a little church in Lafayette NJ that had split from, erm, the Presbys I think. The Lafayette Federated Church. ( Yes, I belong to the Federation) Anyway, the Presbys had initiated women as preachers, and the folks didn't feel that was quite biblical. I agree, and am glad to still belong to a church that followed biblical teachings, rather than the modern diety of PC. One of the things I like about the Catholics is the no PC BS attitude, though there is preasure, particularly from here in the US.

Anyway, I saw someone initiated into the Catholic church near my Philippine home, a little baby, and am pleased to be the kids godfather. I think gives me a licence to kill, though theologians may debate that. Neat old Spanish church built 500 yrs ago.

There was some pomp, robes and smoke pots and water splashed about (if you become a Catholic I'm counting on you to work for full immersion baptism, and expect some action in the near future!) and iirc the priest said a few words over me and others that were to be godparents.
Then that was it.

When I joined my church they didn't have their own baptism pool, so we borrowed the local Baptist church pool. A few friends were there, I was in the pool, in a long black moo moo, with the pastor of my church. He said a few things about baptism, putting on the spiritual, you know, then I got dunked. After I dried off and got my hand shook by my buds, a kiss on the cheek from a girl that liked me, had coffee and donuts, and that was it.

Bible says it's the thing to do.

Hope I helped.

	02-10-2003 23:43									#78
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Lancer:

quote: One of the things I like about the Catholics is the no PC BS attitude, though there is preasure, particularly from here in the US.

I must say that's one of the things that make them more attractive than say the Anglicans, but Mennonites are pretty resistant as well. There have been suggestions, but I don't think that they will ever have women preaching.

quote: if you become a Catholic I'm counting on you to work for full immersion baptism, and expect some action in the near future!

I'd decline. I've already been baptised by full immersion, the whole dunking bit in the Mennonite church. The Catholics would not want to baptise me again.

quote: Well Ben, happy to see you'll be part of the collective soon.

Not sure. Lots of stuff to work out.

	02-10-2003 23:56									#79
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion is it true that when Jewish kids are circed, the guy doing it sucks blood out of their pee?

ive heard of that, but only in the negative (reform explicity saying this is something we DONT do). at the circumcisions ive attended this was never done, though i dont think ive ever been to a strictly orthodox one.

Sorry to disappoint.

	02-10-2003 23:58									#80
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If you and yours ever want to go to the Phils Ben, let me know. You can stay at our place. Lots of nice old Spanish churches, most everyone is Catholic. The way the people express their faith is really fun. Interested?

	03-10-2003 00:01									#81
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quote: You can stay at our place. Lots of nice old Spanish churches, most everyone is Catholic. The way the people express their faith is really fun. Interested?

Interested? Yes. Timing's not good right now. I'm sure my girlfriend would be thrilled to go.

	03-10-2003 00:12									#82
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God willing we'll be going September '04. Man, I can't wait. We'll be staying for either 8 months or a year and 8 months. We might be getting married in the local church. Lots of ceremony, big party after with lots of food. We were civil married the first time around, which does the job, but...

You and your gf might enjoy that too.

We're not sure if it will make it into the plan, as we have other things we want to do too. Hope so.

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quote: We might be getting married in the local church. Lots of ceremony, big party after with lots of food. We were civil married the first time around, which does the job, but...

I'll bet you can't wait.

Like I said before, I'd have to save up, though when I graduate, likely this year, I would no longer have tuition payments and school to work around.

	03-10-2003 01:43									#84
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi We also have some married non-convert priests, priests from the Eastern Rites.(not talking about Orthodox, there are some Eastern Rite communities that are in communion with Rome)

This is true. There is a very prevalent Ukrainian Catholic (not Orthodox) community in Western Canada (East-Central Alberta is a hotspot in particular). There is a rite that you can join to become a married priest; I actually know someone who's doing it... Sadly, I can't remember the name of that rite.

But I can tell you it wasn't the Basilians. They marry not... but they do have museums. Good for them.