09-09-2003 21:32									#1
	What would you do in Iraq if you were President of USA? Increase the size of your Attachments

It is very often easy to critisize others when you think they are doing a bad job, but what if you were President of the United States. What if you had to face the UN and France and Germany keep getting in your way? What about terrorist would fell if you pulled out of Iraq? What about the families of the dead troops? All these things and more you have to considered, and on top of that deal with whats going on at home. So I thought instead of making a lets all bash bush thread why not make a thread of solutions? Also which one of the Democrats running for President you think could do a better job. All I hear most of them say how bad Bush is doing, but they have no ideas that I have heard that will make things better.

	09-09-2003 21:38									#2
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Get reliable intell on where Hussein is, mini-nuke that spot, and leave.

	09-09-2003 21:40									#3
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand Get reliable intell on where Hussein is, mini-nuke that spot, and leave.

Well if you did that the world would cry foul for the use of nukes first off. You would be more hated then bush, Iraq would fall apart most likely and we would be were we started or worse.

You have to think everything through, if it were that simple they would have done it already.

	09-09-2003 21:45									#4
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Invade Syria, wave to Saudi Arabia, create a council formed from the major factions in those areas (Syria and the Kurds included), and put their "leaders" in room and let them figure it out... I wouldn't let them leave until they decide on something... Then once they have set up their governments (which may require separations, but I would demand that the groups work together on political agendas) I would clone a full grown MacArthur and have him over see things for a while...

	09-09-2003 21:47									#5
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place nuclear devices on all the major fault lines of the planet, detonate them, and then launch the rest of the missiles at large and densely populated non-american population centers, as we know that if they're not with us, they're against us.
and most of those countries were too chickenshit to be with us.

	09-09-2003 21:48									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed place nuclear devices on all the major fault lines of the planet, detonate them, and then launch the rest of the missiles at large and densely populated non-american population centers, as we know that if they're not with us, they're against us. and most of those countries were too chickenshit to be with us.

This question was directed at what you would do with Iraq, not the world.

	09-09-2003 21:48									#7
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-Double non-military administrative support. Teaching even the basic fundamentals of democracy and establishing a support structure will take far more manpower than is currently involved.
-Double Iraqi involvement in bremers reconstruction regime- IIRC there are few or no Iraqis involved in the highest echelon.

-Hand over as much of the humanitarian/public health responsibilitys to the UN as humanly possible.

-Open up reconstruction to competitive bids, no Halliburton sweetheart deals.

-Approach all Arab nations, in a conciliatory fashion for at least token amounts of troop support.

	09-09-2003 21:50									#8
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quote: Hand over as much of the humanitarian/public health responsibilitys to the UN as humanly possible.

UNHumanitarianStop itYour killing me

Why don't we just put France in charge of the national defense why we're at it!

	09-09-2003 21:50									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Jack_www Well if you did that the world would cry foul for the use of nukes first off. You would be more hated then bush, Iraq would fall apart most likely and we would be were we started or worse. You have to think everything through, if it were that simple they would have done it already.

It is that simple.
Hell. Most of our "friends" suck anyway.
Nuke it until it glows then nuke it for glowing.
Yeah.

	09-09-2003 21:51									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Jac de Molay -Double non-military administrative support. Teaching even the basic fundamentals of democracy and establishing a support structure will take far more manpower than is currently involved. -Double Iraqi involvement in bremers reconstruction regime- IIRC there are few or no Iraqis involved in the highest echelon. -Hand over as much of the humanitarian/public health responsibilitys to the UN as humanly possible. -Open up reconstruction to competitive bids, no Halliburton sweetheart deals. -Approach all Arab nations, in a conciliatory fashion for at least token amounts of troop support.

This is the best here in this thread so far. I think though that UN with that recen car bombing wants to limit itself in Iraq now. With Halliburton, I think they did not want a French company to get the contract.

	09-09-2003 21:52									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Japher UNHumanitarianStop itYour killing me Why don't we just put France in charge of the national defense why we're at it!

The one thing the UN knows how to do is humanitarian aid. They peace keepers suck though.

	09-09-2003 21:53									#12
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quote: Originally posted by SlowwHand It is that simple. Hell. Most of our "friends" suck anyway. Nuke it until it glows then nuke it for glowing. Yeah.

Then there would be no life on earth.

	09-09-2003 21:54									#13
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I would devide the country into 3 new countries.
Of course the turks won't be pleased, but you can't please anybody.

	09-09-2003 21:55									#14
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I would declare martial law in Iraq.

I would bring in extra troops and start the following operation in the South, then move steadily Northwards until the entire country had been covered:
1) Thoroughly surround any village/town/city
2) Tell the inhabitants to surrender all weapons and pass through my lines one at a time to be searched.
3) Hold the inhabitants temporarily while their empty houses are searched for weapons.
4) Confiscate all weapons and summarily shoot any resistors.
5) When the search is complete, allow the inhabitants to return and move on.

Closely monitor all movements of people across the borders of Iraq.

Policing and reconstruction will be a lot easier once the populace has been thoroughly disarmed.

	09-09-2003 21:55									#15
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quote: This question was directed at what you would do with Iraq, not the world.

last time i checked, iraq was part of the world. so are numerous other terrorist threats, so we must show them that we mean business and will brook no opposition.

besides, it's not like we'd be losing anything. we don't deserve this planet in the first place.

	09-09-2003 21:58									#16
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quote: Nuke it until it glows then nuke it for glowing.

Now that's sig material

	09-09-2003 21:58									#17
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quote: Originally posted by pchang I would declare martial law in Iraq. I would bring in extra troops and start the following operation in the South, then move steadily Northwards until the entire country had been covered: 1) Thoroughly surround any village/town/city 2) Tell the inhabitants to surrender all weapons and pass through my lines one at a time to be searched. 3) Hold the inhabitants temporarily while their empty houses are searched for weapons. 4) Confiscate all weapons and summarily shoot any resistors. 5) When the search is complete, allow the inhabitants to return and move on. Closely monitor all movements of people across the borders of Iraq. Policing and reconstruction will be a lot easier once the populace has been thoroughly disarmed.

Where would get the troops do this? THat would take a lot of manpower, manpower the US might not have on its own.

	09-09-2003 22:01									#18
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You don't have to bring in enough troops to cover significant portions of the country. You could do it one village at a time, if you lacked the manpower. It would just take longer.

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quote: Originally posted by pchang You don't have to bring in enough troops to cover significant portions of the country. You could do it one village at a time, if you lacked the manpower. It would just take longer.

Yeah but people could sneak past your army that is disarming every town if you dont have enough men. BUt the border is a big reason why there are so many attacks. If you controll the border, then no more terrorist.

I also heard though that maybe the though is to turn Iraq into a battle ground and get the terrorist out of hiding and let them come in so you can deal with them once and for all.

	09-09-2003 22:11									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Japher UNHumanitarianStop itYour killing me Why don't we just put France in charge of the national defense why we're at it!

In the face of an ongoing, organized guerilla campaign, we don't need troops handing out bubble gum and bottled water. This is part of Rumsfeld's ongoing lunacy that manpower for these peripheral activities is sufficient.

The UN does suck at a lot of things but they bring a lot of global experience in the humanitarian/public health aspects I mentioned, and this is where theyre need most.

	09-09-2003 23:12									#21
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nuke it. good thing i'm not prez. oh, and iran also. i mean, they're right next door. might as well.

	09-09-2003 23:24									#22
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Your post indicates that if you really were President, you would not nuke Iraq and Iran.

	09-09-2003 23:55									#23
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you lost me... ??? what about my post makes you think that. nuke it. i think that means nuke it.

unless i read the thread title wrong. at work... kinda have to post fast.

	09-09-2003 23:57									#24
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Invade Iran.

	09-09-2003 23:58									#25
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(and give Israel some spare change... a trillion or two)

	10-09-2003 00:00									#26
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hmm. Not go into Iraq, take the two billion we are giving a year to Israel and give it to the CIA. Take money in the 'war on drugs' and use it in Afghanistan and Pakistan to hunt down Alqaeda.

	10-09-2003 00:01									#27
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I'd pay for what the US blew up, and take the money out of the military budget. I wouldn't keep US troops in Iraq, though - I'd simply give the money to Iraq and let them deal with it. Higher whoever they want to make repairs, pay for it out of the money the US is giving them. Once the US pays an estimated amount (estimated by a neutral organization), it cuts off payments, even if Iraq squandered the money and didn't rebuild ****. The money coming out of the military budget stays out of the military budget permanently, and goes into more tax cuts.

	10-09-2003 00:02									#28
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Oh, and I'd take all the money out of Israel as well. More tax cuts.

	10-09-2003 00:03									#29
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We should just leave. Leave iraq for the iraq people. if we dont approve in 12 months... bomb it again. same with iran. the US is the world leader which means we get our way - every single time! iran should submit to inspections along with NK. if they refuse, bomb them, invade, kill those we dont like, tell the remaining what we want to see, leave, return later and if things are screwed up repeat from step 1.