10-09-2003 23:48									#31
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I think that the troops there need to be replaced with fresh troops. But I dont see how putting more there make a difference.

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	10-09-2003 23:53									#32
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quote: If it was a great success the US wouldnīt go to the UN now.

We are looking for one additional international division and seeing what it will cost us at the UN. Hardly crawling on our hands and knees.

	10-09-2003 23:55									#33
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"Declare a policy failed after it has hardly begun."

In the case of a policy born dead, that it is an understatement.

	10-09-2003 23:57									#34
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro If it was a great success the US wouldnīt go to the UN now.

The US could do it itself, but its nice to get help once in a while.

	10-09-2003 23:58									#35
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Like those smokers who always say "but I could stop smoking if I wish to, I just donīt want now".

	11-09-2003 00:04									#36
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This is more a matter of cutting down from a pack a day to only 15 cigarettes.

	11-09-2003 00:04									#37
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quote: Originally posted by BeBro Like those smokers who always say "but I could stop smoking if I wish to, I just donīt want now".

US helped out Europe after WWII, the US gives out billions of dollars in aid to other countries. It is nice not to have to pay it all ourselfs. It is going to take a lot of money and the US wants to share the cost. The world will benfit from a stable and peacefull Iraq. Why cant they help?

	11-09-2003 00:10									#38
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The EU gives billions in aid too to other countries. They will help, Germany just has agreed to financial aid. But if they send troops is another question. This is a political deal, and so there must be fair compromize - thatīs how it works.

	11-09-2003 00:22									#39
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A compromise is reasonable. But we might not be able to find a reasonable compromise.

	11-09-2003 00:23									#40
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quote: Originally posted by Jack_www US helped out Europe after WWII, the US gives out billions of dollars in aid to other countries. It is nice not to have to pay it all ourselfs. It is going to take a lot of money and the US wants to share the cost. The world will benfit from a stable and peacefull Iraq. Why cant they help?

EU aid: ~35 billion $
US aid: ~10 billion $, mostly for client states

As for Iraq, it's definately sunk money unless the US admin finally gets a plan together.

	11-09-2003 01:01									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Jack_www I think that the troops there need to be replaced with fresh troops.

In order to do that you must first have the fresh troops. On NPR this morning I was listening to a report about the new deployment, and one unit is coming home for three months then going back. One reservist will be in Iraq for a year and as soon as he gets home his wife will be assigned to Iraq for a year. Then there's what Sprayber mentioned.

Does anyone feel a draft coming on?

	11-09-2003 01:23									#42
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara In order to do that you must first have the fresh troops. On NPR this morning I was listening to a report about the new deployment, and one unit is coming home for three months then going back. One reservist will be in Iraq for a year and as soon as he gets home his wife will be assigned to Iraq for a year. Then there's what Sprayber mentioned. Does anyone feel a draft coming on?

A draft is the last thing the generals want. They like their well trained, motivated, long service professional army.

	11-09-2003 02:27									#43
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How long is it going to stay well motivated when you have to keep the troops constantly on station in order to meet the requirements?

How long is it going to be well trained (in anything other than insurgancy/peacekeeping) when troops can't be spared for training sessions?

If the US increased force levels closer to those seen in Bosnia/Kosovo/Macedonia, relative to population, then those two questions will need answering.