10-09-2003 20:11									#1
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Last edited by Voltaire on 10-09-2003 at 20:18

	10-09-2003 20:17									#2
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	10-09-2003 20:18									#3
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Oh **** wrong forum.

	10-09-2003 20:26									#4
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This also breaches the rules Voltaire. I know it was unintentional, but that does not reduce the harm it may cause. This is the 3rd breach of the rules you have made that involve the CyCon too.

	10-09-2003 20:35									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Drogue This also breaches the rules Voltaire. I know it was unintentional, but that does not reduce the harm it may cause. This is the 3rd breach of the rules you have made that involve the CyCon too.

How is this a breach? Forgive my ignorance.

	10-09-2003 20:53									#6
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You have informed the other factions of a link between our factions. What you wrote was up long enough that we have a copy of it, so other factions could too. Moreover, the simple thread title implies that there is something to do with the CyCon and PEACE together. It is communication with other factions before you have met in game. It was unintentional, that is true, however that does not diminish the harm to us that other factions may know a little, or if they read your post a lot, about our diplomacy.

	10-09-2003 21:03									#7
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I would ask to delete this thread, but moderators are very slow when it comes to doing something for the democracy game, so it probably won't help.

Last edited by Maniac on 12-09-2003 at 03:49

	10-09-2003 21:04									#8
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Sorry if I seem a bit rude, I do not mean to be, it is just a little worrying the events of today, and even if Googlie decides that because it was unintentional, it does not need sanctions, we have still lost out. This damages our diplomactic strategy greatly.

	10-09-2003 21:51									#9
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I have requested this thread be deleted too. I would like to offer our sincere apology. I would agree with everything function Drogue commented that this is an unfortunate mistake. I know this may not help but I still would like to offer my full believe that this was done unintentionally. I hope the fact that the posts were up only for 7 minutes and if this thread will be deleted soon would minimize the harm as best as possible.

I would also like to point out that this actually does a lot of harm to the Hive itself for its intention was greatly exposed. Of course it does not reduce any harm that it has done to you and does not elieviate the responsibility the Hive needs to take.

Last edited by Snowflake on 10-09-2003 at 22:00

	10-09-2003 21:51									#10
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Very convenient, posting in the wrong forum

	10-09-2003 23:44									#11
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I believe them. I have known Voltaire through the DG for sometime, and both he and the other Hive members I know seem honest and trsutworthy. I have no reason to suspect that they did this intentionally. Indeed, why would they? How would it help them if others know of our situations? Knowledge is valuble, they know, why would they want to tell others.

Therefore I have no trouble believing that this thread was a complete accident. The only concern I have is how the information was gathered. However I have no reason to disbelieve their explanation for that either, and I would not want this to sour any future relations at all.

	11-09-2003 00:04									#12
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This reminds me when googliegod appeared in my dream and gave me a sentence translated from certain binary codes ... What happy memories ...

	11-09-2003 00:49									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac It's remarkable how the Hive is the only faction that constantly breaks rules, "unintentionally" finds out and publishes sensitive information, and has problems with hackers.

Oh one time, it was only one time that I (and yes 'I', not the Hive) accidentally broke the rules in a communiqué to Drogue (since the line between in-game planning and general discussion was unclear). I hardly call that constantly, particularly given the fact that I still think the matter moot. And what hacker problems?

	11-09-2003 03:27									#14
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I do believe he is referring to the person who hacked the ACDG file and sent the passwords.
And Voltaire, I do believe his comments were made in the heat of the moment and should be throroughly and completly dismissed.

	11-09-2003 03:43									#15
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And I missed out all the fun (curses timezone)

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Aye maties

WE de pirates resents da thought o' bein' "linked" with a cyborg. They's smart an' all but we just dinna understand how they can not be interested in beddin' a fine wench. Our fellers tried to " link" wit dem cyborg wenches and let me tell you . . . der ain't been no "links" between no cyborgs and no pirates despite our best efforts.

Now we hears the Hive women will do " anythin' fer a party" hehe . . . . WHAT ? what do you mean "anythin fer THE party"? Only one party ?? We got xenorum enough fer a dozen parties . . . oohhhh yer talkin' some odder kind o' party--like the guv'vent . . .. They'll do anythin' fer the guv'ment-- well I be de ambassador fer the PEACE guv'ment so will dem lasses do ANYTHING fer me. . .

WE be a swashbuckling group wit many fine lads. If'n ye got some fine women and a keg o' xenorum, we be pleased ta link wit whoever we meet. Jest remember lads, keep yer swords sheathed, fer yer own protection hehehe.

	11-09-2003 06:30									#17
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Eh? Wazza'sh ya shay? Partshy? I like *hic* partieshs.

- Deputy Chairman Jamski at THE party

	11-09-2003 06:38									#18
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Awwkkk!!!
Cap'n Flubber, d'ya think da Borgs spilled all da beans ?
Some blokes just can't keep anything under their hats Awwkkk!!!.

	11-09-2003 11:08									#19
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It's not like the link between your two factions wasn't obvious to begin with. There's no way either of you would've rocketed up the power graphs like you did otherwise.

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quote: Originally posted by Maniac It's remarkable how the Hive is the only faction that constantly breaks rules, "unintentionally" finds out and publishes sensitive information, and has problems with hackers.

When you put it that way you make it sound bad.

Anyway we notched the spam up by 4 times so anyone that attempts to find anything from our private forum will have a numb brain.

	11-09-2003 14:45									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Voltaire Oh one time, it was only one time that I (and yes 'I', not the Hive) accidentally broke the rules in a communiqué to Drogue (since the line between in-game planning and general discussion was unclear). I hardly call that constantly, particularly given the fact that I still think the matter moot.

It does seem a little suspicious however. Obviously we must give you the benefit of the doubt, but we are not sure as to the trustworthyness of the Hive, as there have been too many concidences for us

quote: Originally posted by Voltaire And what hacker problems?

Kody's supposed involvement in the Skywalker affair IIRC, and the Tassadar contact about the passwords.

	11-09-2003 14:52									#22
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The skywalker incident was a joke, and it wasn't hacking. If had actually hacked apolyton then I would be banned. Instead I got told not to tell anyone and to never do it again.

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Anyway most of the people who saw it laughed.

Last edited by Kody on 12-09-2003 at 03:07

	11-09-2003 18:42									#24
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Ok guys, this has gone quite far. Go back to your duty, comrades.

	11-09-2003 19:01									#25
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But this thread is pure I thought that was your duty?

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That was MY duty.

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Works like a charm

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	12-09-2003 06:28									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Archaic It's not like the link between your two factions wasn't obvious to begin with. There's no way either of you would've rocketed up the power graphs like you did otherwise.

Would somebody please post the power graphs.

I understand that there is no independent commentator on this game because of some concerns over letting Tassadar having access to some Googlie fed basic info, but you guys could at least post the power charts.


An interested spectator (Mead)

BTW
If only those two factions have made contact and have been able to exchange techs, then it looks like each will have roughly a 50% chance of winning the game. Unless, of course, some of the other factions can meet each other, and cooperate.... Soon.