11-09-2003 02:36									#31
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We really should not be building oil fired power plants. We should have most of our energy coming from non green house sources like hydro and nuclear or failing that then domestically producable sources such as coal. We should make it extrememly difficult for people from countries with large terrorist supporting populations to get into western countries. This will protect our people from foreign terrorists.

Lastly, we should absolutely insist the Saudis and Yemanis take concrete steps to show they have stopped spread the facist hate that is Wahabism.

	11-09-2003 02:40									#32
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I get the impression that the Yemenis are actually trying to do something about the terrorism coming from their country, but they aren't in effective control of the whole country. Certain regions are control by "bandits."

	11-09-2003 02:42									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Chemical Ollie Barbie neither have nipples, nor pubic hair. Is that the style you like?

People who take off all Barbie's clothes to have a look are perverts!!!!

	11-09-2003 02:43									#34
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That was my impression as well, hence the use of that Predator drone to nail somebody over there a while back.

-Arrian

	11-09-2003 03:01									#35
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Hmm, I suppose the Yemenis are cooperating and they are handy capped by not having control over large sections of their country. Still we should be helping them to gain control and enforce law and order over their tribal areas. Especially if they will agree to stop teaching the facist ideology or at least radically change it so it is n o longer facist.

	11-09-2003 03:10									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon People who take off all Barbie's clothes to have a look are perverts!!!!

So this was the first time you heard about it?

By the way, doesn't the kids remove Barbie's clothes to put on new? Each doll normally have multiple sets of clothing.

	11-09-2003 03:12									#37
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Agathon:

If you have not seen barbie naked, how could you compare her with all the Israeli girls.

LoM:

I still don't see why preachers 'inciting hate' has to fall in the same category as aggressive Wahhabism? Where would you draw the line in censoring speech?

	11-09-2003 03:14									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Ming Hmmm... Clinton liked them as well

But that doesn't erase the fact that Bush likes them as well

	11-09-2003 03:15									#39
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When the cleric tells the followers it is their religious duty to go forth and kill the infidels then it's a problem.

	11-09-2003 03:18									#40
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Sadly, this is probably a step up for Saudi Arabia - at least they don't claim there's an accessory for allowing Ken and Barbie to drain the blood of Cabbage Patch Dolls for Jewish Rites or something...

http://www.snopes.com/religion/blood.htm



(And like I heard someone else say, if Ken is Jewish, the Rabbi sure messed up on the circumcision. )

	11-09-2003 03:29									#41
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Edan dont you ever blush?

	11-09-2003 04:46									#43
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Yet another Jewish plot to corrupt Muslim youth. When will those dastardly Jews ever learn?

Do the Saudis actually believe this rubbish? Or are they simply using it as propaganda to instil hatred in their population against Israel (as if there isn't enough there already).

	11-09-2003 04:56									#44
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Rather some other people are using it as propaganda to make even the last saudi arabian (and his dog) to be some kind of jewish eating monster.

	11-09-2003 05:00									#45
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But when they come out with stupid (but funny as hell) stuff like this paiktis, it's not hard to see why people could jump to those conclusions about the Saudis...

	11-09-2003 05:05									#46
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With the right presentation not at all

	11-09-2003 05:09									#47
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I keep telling you guys 9/11 was down to the Saudis - nothing to do with the Iraqis...

What happened? Did the US armed forces get lost in the desert?

	11-09-2003 05:15									#48
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quote: Originally posted by MOBIUS I keep telling you guys 9/11 was down to the Saudis - nothing to do with the Iraqis... What happened? Did the US armed forces get lost in the desert?

Must've been all those sandstorms before the war.

	11-09-2003 05:57									#49
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So there's a Yentl Barbie, Gefilte Barbie and Sexy Sabra the terrorist killer Barbie...

Perhaps the Saudis could combat with Osama Barbie Laden, with detachable beard, optional Koran, add on plane pack, and overseas bank account. It could be a final gift to a female suicide bomber....

With friends like the House of Saud, who needs enemas.

	11-09-2003 06:28									#50
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Couldn't we just split them up? Al Hasa, El Hedjaz, and El Nedj. Let the Wahhabists stew in the desert while the oil and religious territories are run by more sane people.

I've suggested that. Given the borders are artificial anyway, they should be redrawn to increase the are of surrounding nations at the expense of Saudi. One benefit is that the massive oil deposits now held by Saudi, and the wealth and power they represent, will be under the control of several competing governments, rather than just one.

	11-09-2003 06:30									#51
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Destroy the Saudis!

I believe we are actually moving in that direction.

	11-09-2003 06:56									#52
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The reason we can't do crap to Saudi Arabia is 2 things:


1)They would shut off our supply of oil, it would cripple our economy (no gasoline, plastics, etc)

2) Ifwe mess to much in saudi politics the Wahhabis will gain support by using the " Infidels are running our country" BS.

	11-09-2003 08:19									#53
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Once we got Iraqi oil flowing in a decade or so, we ain't gonna needs the Saudis.

	11-09-2003 22:19									#54
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Rather some other people are using it as propaganda to make even the last saudi arabian (and his dog) to be some kind of jewish eating monster.

I just present the facts. It's up to others to draw the conclusions.

	11-09-2003 22:20									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Smiley Once we got Iraqi oil flowing in a decade or so, we ain't gonna needs the Saudis.

I really hope you're right because the Saudi government is full of facists whom we shouldn't be supporting.

	11-09-2003 22:22									#56
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You'll still need Saudi oil. And you'll still support the Saudi fascists as they will do some windowdressing crackdown on the worst extremists, and the alternative is even worse.

	11-09-2003 22:38									#57
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quote: Originally posted by MRT144 clinton also liked oral sex in the oval office. blow. i feel like americans now a day overlook anything a republican does, but has to harp on what a democrat does.

i feel the exact opposite of what you said, but the state I live in is predominately democrat.

	11-09-2003 22:42									#58
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quote: Originally posted by HershOstropoler You'll still need Saudi oil. And you'll still support the Saudi fascists as they will do some windowdressing crackdown on the worst extremists, and the alternative is even worse.

Unfortunately we will keep supporting these facists for the exact reasons you state. Still, all the Saudis have to sell is oil so it's not like they can refuse to sell it as they'll go bankrupt. In essience they need to sell oil even worse then we need to buy oil from them since we have potentially alternative sources of oil (Russia, Africa, Latin America, Indonesia, other Arab states, etc).

	11-09-2003 22:49									#59
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It doesn't matter who they sell it to, or who we buy it from. Oil is a global commodity, and the Saudis have a huge position in the light and intermediate crude markets.

	11-09-2003 22:49									#60
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"since we have potentially alternative sources of oil"

And the Saudis have alternative customers, eg China.