11-09-2003 06:06									#1
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He'll be speaking at the September 11 service at the National Cathedral. Since my school is run by the Cathedral, I'm garaunteed a seat.

Anyway, the purpose of the thread is for somebody to give me a good synopsis of Buddhism, since I really don't know much about it. Buddhism seems to get a very good rap in the western world, but nobody seems to know much about it. Are there any Buddhists here at Apolyton?

	11-09-2003 06:12									#2
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http://www.religioustolerance.org/buddhism.htm

	11-09-2003 06:15									#3
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Are you looking for information on its beliefs, its values, its history... all of that in one?

	11-09-2003 06:20									#4
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I'm just generally curious. I don't have anything specific in mind. Although I am particularly curious about how they decide who the next Dali Lama will be. IIRC they pick them when they're really little. I find the whole concept of a holy human rather interesting, because none of the western religions do that.

	11-09-2003 06:25									#5
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religioustolerance.org?

I'm sure you could find a better site, Boris.

	11-09-2003 06:29									#6
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haha obiwan, I thought you were some newbie.

	11-09-2003 06:31									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi religioustolerance.org? I'm sure you could find a better site, Boris.

What's wrong with it? Do you object to religious tolerance? For shame.

	11-09-2003 06:34									#8
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quote: haha obiwan, I thought you were some newbie.

JW:

With the exact same avatar?

I wanted to chop the 18 off my old username, but some stiff took the nick. I settled on Ben Kenobi.

Boris:

I don't object to religious tolerance. I object to that mislabeled site that distorts religions.

	11-09-2003 06:35									#9
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I'm gonna fling spitwads at him on the 15th and see what he preaches then.

;D

And I used to be such a good little Buddhist.

	11-09-2003 06:37									#10
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I heard if you do that, his flunkies hold you down and shave your head.....

	11-09-2003 06:37									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi JW: With the exact same avatar?

I mean when I was in the OT screen and you were last poster in the thread. Once I saw the familiar avatar and profiler prolifer, I realized your identity.

	11-09-2003 06:38									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Timexwatch I heard if you do that, his flunkies hold you down and shave your head.....

ROFLMAO!!!!

I'm still laughing!!

	11-09-2003 07:00									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Boris: I don't object to religious tolerance. I object to that mislabeled site that distorts religions.

Oh BS. religioustolerance.org presents all major viewpoints on the major religions succinctly and in a very accessible manner. Sounds to me like you don't like it just because it gives time to alternative views to mainstream Christianity.

It doesn't play favorites, and it backs up its information with sources. Is it broad information? Absolutely, which is the intent--to give broad outlines of the different aspects of different religions. I suspect all JW wanted was a broad outline of the tenets of Buddhism, not in-depth religious criticism. So it fits the bill.

Unless you can find some sort of major flaw with how it presents Buddhism (other than, of course, it presenting Buddhism), your objection is hollow.

	11-09-2003 07:06									#14
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quote: Unless you can find some sort of major flaw with how it presents Buddhism (other than, of course, it presenting Buddhism), your objection is hollow.

Well, all of a sudden, I'm an expert of buddhism? I don't have enough experience to critique their analysis.

quote: It doesn't play favorites, and it backs up its information with sources.

Objective? Right.

I'm not going to jack the thread. I have major reservations that religioustolerance.org will provide correct information given their coverage of Christianity.

If I'm trying to learn more about a religion, I go to a site supported by the members of said religion. That seems to me a reasonable preposition.

	11-09-2003 07:16									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Well, all of a sudden, I'm an expert of buddhism? I don't have enough experience to critique their analysis.

So shush!

quote: Objective? Right. I'm not going to jack the thread. I have major reservations that religioustolerance.org will provide correct information given their coverage of Christianity.

If you don't want to back it up, fine...but my point stands that it gives equal time to most positions on significant issues. I don't see any evidence to the contrary. It does generalize things--on ALL sides--but that's the nature of a site devoted to concise information. As long as JW is aware of that, I don't see a problem.

quote: If I'm trying to learn more about a religion, I go to a site supported by the members of said religion. That seems to me a reasonable preposition.

Is a reasonable preposition in opposition to an irrational adverb?

	11-09-2003 07:22									#16
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quote: As long as JW is aware of that, I don't see a problem.

Well, something we can agree upon.

I still think it would be better to actually go to a buddhist site.

quote: Is a reasonable preposition in opposition to an irrational adverb?

You tell me, Mr. Grammer Nazi.

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quote: Originally posted by Ben Kenobi Well, all of a sudden, I'm an expert of buddhism? I don't have enough experience to critique their analysis. Objective? Right. I'm not going to jack the thread. I have major reservations that religioustolerance.org will provide correct information given their coverage of Christianity. If I'm trying to learn more about a religion, I go to a site supported by the members of said religion. That seems to me a reasonable preposition.

Seems to me religioustolerance.org would be more objective than a website run by that particular religion.

ACK!

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But I don't think JW wants an objective postion. Wouldn't he prefer the truth?

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"But I don't think JW wants an objective postion. Wouldn't he prefer the truth? "

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quote: Originally posted by Jaguar Warrior I am particularly curious about how they decide who the next Dali Lama will be. IIRC they pick them when they're really little.

As the reigning one is dying, he gives indications on who his next incarnation will be, and the monks will go set out searching for the boy. There are some tests to be done to verify whether the boy found is the right one. Finally, the central government has the final say on whether the kid is actually the Dali Lama or not.

The same applies to other Lamas such as the Panchen Lama as well.

	11-09-2003 09:10									#21
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Yep. as UR said.

The Incarnation of the Lama then is normally taken away from the Parents and raised in a monastery, to again learn the Duties he had to do in his last Incarnation, while its Parents ae financialy eimbursed for the Loss of their Child.

	11-09-2003 09:16									#22
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quote: Although I am particularly curious about how they decide who the next Dali Lama will be.

To elaborate on UR's post, IIRC, the selected toddlers are shown a number of objects, including one that belonged to the former lama. If the toddler grasps at the former lama's posession, it "proves" he is the re-incarnation of that lama.

Sure, it's kooky, but no kookier than the Miracle of Transubstantiation!