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Vesayen is offline Vesayen
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PLASTIC NERVES MAKE BIONIC MAN A REALITY

11:00 - 10 September 2003

The Bionic Man, the half-human, half-machine hero of the eponymous TV series, will soon become a reality, scientists revealed last night. Recent advances in micro-engineering have enabled researchers to rebuild parts of the central nervous system - the network of electrical fibres which sends commands to different groups of muscles in the arms, legs and other parts of the body.

British scientists are already working on developing artificial limbs with synthetic, plastic nerves which are spliced into nerve endings on the stump of the old leg, using the same techniques as for developing computer chips.

In America a man has been fitted with a robotic arm and hand which is wired into his central nervous system. He can move his limb and fingers around and pick up objects.

Meanwhile, in Portugal, a totally blind man has been fitted with artificial eyes which send electrical impulses directly into his brain.

The latest research was reported yesterday at the annual meeting of the British Association for the Advancement of Science. Dr Michael Pycraft Hughes, an expert in biomedical engineering at Surrey University, said: "You could say that we have the technology to rebuild people, but not quite like the Bionic Man because it's not better, stronger, faster.

"We're learning to use technology to make copies of nature, but the copies are not necessarily as good as the real thing yet."

Dr Pycraft Hughes has helped develop advanced prosthetic legs with titanium 'bones' which fuse to the bone in the wearer's stump.

Trials with more than 20 people without legs in Britain have shown they can move around much more naturally than users of conventional prosthetic limbs.

He is now experimenting with development of synthetic nerves which could be spliced into the nerves of a leg stump so that the wearer's new limb could be made touch sensitive.

And in the past five years hundreds of patients in Britain, Sweden and America have been fitted with advanced cochlear implants, or artificial ears, which have allowed totally deaf children and adults to hear for the first time.

Cochlear implants work by converting sound waves into electrical impulses and linking up with the nerves in the brain.

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That's a newspaper article? Why hasn't CNN or the BBC picked this up?

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I dont know, do they always publish everything first?

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I do't know about CNN or the BBC, but Paul Harvey picked it up on his noon broadcast.

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They usually pick things up within at least 1 year from science journals actually publishing things...

We have the technology, we can rebuild him...

nananananana...

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Could this be used to provide extra arms and legs to those who still have their full complement? That would be cool.

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Cool! Cyborgs are only a decade away!

And then the bionic watermelon!!

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Yes....this will serve The Plan nicely.

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I think I'd have an incredible advantage boxing with 6 arms.

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This is great news. That's the first step to a real human / machine interface. With the progresses of genetics, we mankind are really taking our own fate and our own shape in our hands

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I don't think this could be used to add extra fingers, much less extra arms. The human brain evolved to control two arms, each with a hand and five fingers.

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We could learn, couldn't we?

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We could learn, couldn't we?


I think it unlikey for us adults, but children could be augmented and they'd probably learn to use it.

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The other problem is, where do you attach the extra appendage? Where do you hook it into the brain?
The reason why it is possible to replace lost limbs is because there is already a nerve there that hooks into the brain. All that is needed is for the appendage to be hooked to the nerve. A new appendage would require a new nerve.

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We could, however, make "better" apendages.

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this will do wonders for the penis enlargement buisness

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Excell . . . I'm mean, oh, how interesting.

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Can the movie about the man with the ten foot slong be far off?

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Do the artificial nerves replace sensations or just motor control?

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The question is, how will this be used?

To replace amputee etc. arms? Great.

For RIAA lawyers looking to make up for their department?

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If they can make blind people see, and replace limbs... I'm sure they'd be able to replace feelings as well...

What about Christpher Reeves? Fix Superman already!

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If you could replace sensations, you could program the nerves to fire whenever you wanted. Finally men will get to have more than a three-second orgasm, and by just flipping a switch!

The benefits of being a cyborg.

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"Could this be used to provide extra arms and legs to those who still have their full complement? That would be cool."

Can't - our brain is simply designed for using two arms, two legs, etc. In order to do that, we'd have to delve further into neuroscience than we already have.

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Can't - our brain is simply designed for using two arms, two legs, etc. In order to do that, we'd have to delve further into neuroscience than we already have.


Never underestimate the capitacity of the human brain to learn new things. If an infant had additional limbs grafted on, I'm reasonably sure that it would be able to learn how to use the limbs, although since they wouldn't grow it might be a little awkward.

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Cranial Nerves, che, are arranged in pairs (one for each side of the body). Are you saying that a new nerve might "grow" in order to accomidate a foreign entity?

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Cranial Nerves, che, are arranged in pairs (one for each side of the body). Are you saying that a new nerve might "grow" in order to accomidate a foreign entity?

Just add two arms instead of one already. And voila, you're symmetric again !

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The extra limbs thing is interesting...providing they are 'wired' into the CNS you should be able to learn to use them...

 
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