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ok, i hate to say this, but i found this article damn funny.

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First tokers of Health Canada cannabis call it disgusting, want money back


Updated at 17:52 on September 15, 2003, EST.


Medicinal marijuana user Christine Lowe lights a pipe containing marijuana during a protest in Ottawa on July 9. (CP/Chris Wattie)

OTTAWA (CP) - Some of the first patients to smoke Health Canada's government-approved marijuana say it's "disgusting" and want their money back.

"It's totally unsuitable for human consumption," said Jim Wakeford, 58, an AIDS patient in Gibsons, B.C. "It gave me a slight buzziness for about three to five minutes, and that was it. I got no other effect from it."

Barrie Dalley, a 52-year-old Toronto man who uses marijuana to combat the nausea associated with AIDS, said the Health Canada dope actually made him sick to his stomach.

"I threw up," Dalley said Monday. "It made me nauseous because I had to use so much of it. It was so weak in potency that I really threw up."

Both men are returning their 30-gram bags, and Dalley is demanding his money back - $150 plus taxes. Wakeford is returning his unpaid bill for two of the bags with a letter of complaint.

A third AIDS patient says he's also unhappy with the product, which is supposed to contain 10.2 per cent THC, the main active ingredient.

"I'm still smoking it - I would prefer better, but it's all I've got," said Jari Dvorak, 62, in Toronto. "I think Health Canada certainly should do better with the quality."

All three are among 10 patients who have registered with Health Canada to buy dope directly from the government to alleviate their medical symptoms. Another 39 applications are pending.

The department was compelled to begin direct distribution in July, following an Ontario court order this year that said needy patients should not be forced to get their cannabis on the streets or from authorized growers, who themselves obtain seeds or cuttings illegally.

The marijuana is being grown for Health Canada deep underground in a vacant mine section in Flin Flon, Man., by Prairie Plant Systems on a $5.75-million contract. The department originally intended that the product go first to accredited researchers to demonstrate whether or not cannabis is medically effective.

Health Minister Anne McLellan has said she opposes the direct distribution of government cannabis to patients and that the program will end if the department wins its appeal of the Ontario court decision.

The government dope also came under fire Monday from Canadians for Safe Access, a patients' rights group that is pressing for supplies of safe, effective marijuana.

Laboratory tests indicate the Health Canada product has only about three per cent THC - not the 10.2 per cent advertised - and contains contaminants such as lead and arsenic, said spokesman Philippe Lucas of Victoria.

"This particular product wouldn't hold a candle to street level cannabis," he said in an interview.

But Lucas declined to identify the three labs that did the testing, other than to indicate they're in Vancouver, saying he fears the facilities might suffer repercussions from Health Canada because they were not authorized to possess the cannabis.

He also would not say how the group obtained the sample of government dope.

A spokeswoman for Health Canada said the department can't accept laboratory findings from anonymous facilities.

"We question the validity of the test results because Canadians for Safe Access has been unwilling to reveal who did the testing, and when the testing was done, and under what conditions," said Krista Apse.

She said the Flin Flon cannabis had to meet exacting production standards and was thoroughly tested for its quality.

No patients have complained directly to Health Canada so far, Apse said, and the department will not accept returns or provide refunds.

Lucas, who smokes marijuana to cope with his hepatitis C infection, said the lab results also showed that the cannabis provided at a Victoria compassion club for patients registers at more than 12 per cent and is freer from contaminants.

He said the government cannabis was too finely ground up with stems and leaves, calling it "shwag" or "bunk," street terminology for the lowest grade of marijuana.

© The Canadian Press, 2003

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Attempts to reach Health Canada by phone for comment on this story were futile. The only comment we could get from them was "Dave's not here, man".

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hey! i got ming to laugh!

i love these two paragraphs.

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"It's totally unsuitable for human consumption," said Jim Wakeford, 58, an AIDS patient in Gibsons, B.C. "It gave me a slight buzziness for about three to five minutes, and that was it. I got no other effect from it."

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Both men are returning their 30-gram bags, and Dalley is demanding his money back - $150 plus taxes. Wakeford is returning his unpaid bill for two of the bags with a letter of complaint.

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That's a good argument against legalising marijuana.

'Would you trust this government with your dope?'

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$150! Why not just go down to the local head shop and buy it for $15?

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LMAO
yep thats what happens when the government gets itno something, mmmm stems and leaves always a tasty additive to good underground grown arsenic bud
We have a government grower here on Vancouver island now just down the road from me, his stuff is top notch, perhaps we should be shipping it to Toronto!
http://www.medicalmarihuana.ca/organic.html

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$150! Why not just go down to the local head shop and buy it for $15?


You can get 30 grams for 15$?

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30 grams is over an ounce, that'd be at least £100 here.

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Yup. Rule of thumb is 10-15 $CAN if bought by the gram...

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28 grams to an ounce for US posters.

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Most weed users in the US are very familiar with the gram to oz. conversion.

Why doesn't the Canadian Gov, just subcontract the weed production to Asher?

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Really? Despite being metric we still buy weed in ounces (or fractions of ounces).

For some reason the government directives that all products must now be sold in metric hasn't made it to the drug trade.

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Yes, really. Mainly because most of it is weighed on scales stolen from schools that are all calibrated in grams.

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28 grams to an ounce for US posters.


The gram was the typical exchange medium among the drug-dealing burnouts at my high school. This usually constituted buying a small baggie of some green substance- an amalgam of parsley, mystery substances, and maybe a little weed, for about 10 bucks.

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I think weed production should be sub-contracted to "professional" growers.

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If the desire's there, anyone can understand the metric system.

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and it's actually 28.34952 grams.

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How many grammes, though?

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I heard that today on a radio medical show. Funny stuff.

This is proof to you big goverment types, that the goverment can't do anything well. It's best left to private enterprises

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Where I am from weed is sold in imperial weights and chemicals in metric. I would guess that this is true for all of the UK. Is this very different in other countries?

 
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