16-09-2003 23:05									#31
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Nah, nah... The reason the UK likes us is because they know if they made us mad we'd take Canada out of spite...

	16-09-2003 23:27									#32
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Interesting question.

	16-09-2003 23:28									#33
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Let's put it this way.

On the one hand, the US has a long history of dodgy foreign affairs, is showing what some feel are alarming imperialist tendencies, has fought wars on shaky grounds and has uniquely used nuclear weapons in anger.

On the other hand, the EU has France in it.

No contest.

	16-09-2003 23:28									#34
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	16-09-2003 23:31									#35
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woof

	17-09-2003 00:00									#36
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For the last 300 years Britain has conquered and run a large part of this planet, mainly by using local leaders and mercenary troops. We are still doing it but allow our main colony the fiction of believing they make their own decisions and are an independent country.

Given that their decisions often involve electing a President who has trouble tying his shoelaces unaided, it is inevitable that they then have to be quietly told what to do whilst no-one else is looking.

Far cheaper and easier than doing all the work yourself.

	17-09-2003 00:19									#37
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still woof.

	17-09-2003 00:22									#38
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Why does Great Britain perfer to be a pet of the United States rather than a semi-equal among Europeans?

Britain's military capacity (including the nuclear capability) is closely tied to the US. They get more for their money that way (eg France's nuclear weapons program is independent, but much more expensive), but have to, shall we say, properly consider what Washington wants. Similar things go for intelligence.

Britain has still maintained a semblance of independence - until Blair. He really loves it up the arse with a spiked dildo.

	17-09-2003 00:26									#39
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	17-09-2003 00:43									#40
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Delusions of grandeur. By being our *****, they get to pretend that they still have dominion over half of the world.

	17-09-2003 00:47									#41
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 :brwncard:

	18-09-2003 09:26									#42
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Sir Humphrey: "Minister, Britain has had the same foreign policy objective for at least the last 500 years: to create a disunited Europe. In that cause we have fought with the Dutch against the Spanish, with the Germans against the French, with the French and Italians against the Germans, and with the French against the Germans and Italians. Divide and rule, you see. Why should we change now when it's worked so well?"

Jim Hacker: "That's all ancient history, surely."

Sir Humphrey: "Yes, and current policy. We had to break the whole thing [the EEC] up, so we had to get inside. We tried to break it up from the outside, but that wouldn't work. Now that we're inside we can make a complete pig's breakfast of the whole thing: set the Germans against the French, the French against the Italians, the Italians against the Dutch. The Foreign Office is terribly pleased, it's just like old times."

	18-09-2003 11:07									#43
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	18-09-2003 12:00									#44
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If your not with us your against us or if you are with us your a poddle. Seems a little unfair.

Blair was talking about getting rid of Saddam long before good al George even thought about being pres.

	18-09-2003 23:18									#45
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quote: Originally posted by HershOstropoler . Britain has still maintained a semblance of independence - until Blair. He really loves it up the arse with a spiked dildo.

Well you clearly don't remember the Thatcher years. When Libya was bombed, where did the bombers come from?

Clue- Lakenh*ath.

	18-09-2003 23:40									#46
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Well UK policy has usually been to ask "how high" when the US says "jump". It's just never been as extreme as in the case of Iraq, though that may mostly be based on Blair's delusion. Considering your own interests to some extent was what I'd see as a "semblance of independence".

	18-09-2003 23:56									#47
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Like housing US Cruise missiles in UK bases, turning Britain into a big "bullseye" target?

	19-09-2003 00:00									#48
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Germany did that too.

	19-09-2003 00:03									#49
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Did they let the Americans build the world's largest telecommunications surveillance base on their soil and leave it under the sole control of the US military?

	19-09-2003 00:11									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Big Crunch Sir Humphrey: "Minister, Britain has had the same foreign policy objective for at least the last 500 years: to create a disunited Europe. In that cause we have fought with the Dutch against the Spanish, with the Germans against the French, with the French and Italians against the Germans, and with the French against the Germans and Italians. Divide and rule, you see. Why should we change now when it's worked so well?" Jim Hacker: "That's all ancient history, surely." Sir Humphrey: "Yes, and current policy. We had to break the whole thing [the EEC] up, so we had to get inside. We tried to break it up from the outside, but that wouldn't work. Now that we're inside we can make a complete pig's breakfast of the whole thing: set the Germans against the French, the French against the Italians, the Italians against the Dutch. The Foreign Office is terribly pleased, it's just like old times."

	19-09-2003 00:17									#51
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It's the largest? Anyway, the NSA has at least one big outlet in Germany, Bad Aibling... on the other hand, Britain profits from the information exchange, at least to some extent.

	19-09-2003 00:20									#52
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Britian follows the US less than Austria follows Germany. And to better ends...

	19-09-2003 00:20									#53
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Le General had said not to let the rose-biefs in.

	19-09-2003 00:21									#54
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quote: Originally posted by HershOstropoler It's the largest? Anyway, the NSA has at least one big outlet in Germany, Bad Aibling... on the other hand, Britain profits from the information exchange, at least to some extent.

You're off in Che-Indy media land now. Does this really have any significance? Or is it just the latest Euro affection? If you want to dig at UK, get after them for their support in the War. Who cares about that Echelon crap. It is booshwa.

	19-09-2003 00:24									#55
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"Britian follows the US less than Austria follows Germany. And to better ends..."

Your trolls have really gone down the drain since the name change.

"You're off in Che-Indy media land now."

I love my tinfoil, thanks.

	19-09-2003 00:26									#56
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for we can not allow the rosebiefs into our humane union. they will destroy it. like the vile warm destroys the healthy red apple from the INSIDE.

Le General had warned,

	19-09-2003 00:29									#57
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Les rosebiefs are trapped in their own web.

	19-09-2003 00:33									#58
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Ros-bifs isn't it Paki?

	19-09-2003 00:36									#59
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rosebeefs or worms.

	19-09-2003 00:38									#60
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Who's got the marbles?