17-09-2003 18:15									#31
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quote: Originally posted by Asher I dare you to touch a P4 running w/o a heatsink and tell me it's not extreme.

Do you mean in the microsecond before it burns out?

	17-09-2003 18:21									#32
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intel has onboard circuitry which kills speed in exchange for saving the chip.

and yes, extreme is just extremely overused these days.

	17-09-2003 18:25									#33
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I forgot that, would you test it with your own cpu though?

	17-09-2003 18:28									#34
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And in the meantime, all you really need is 1.5 GHz...

	17-09-2003 18:29									#35
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no. but with yours, definitely.

	17-09-2003 18:34									#36
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Isn't it time for a name change? Why is it called 'Pentium 4'? Shouldn't the Pentium 2 have been the Hexium (or something) and Petuim 3 the 'Octium'?

BTW, I need more ram. Does anyone know what memory costs these days? I currently have 256MB - would I be better to buy another 256MB, or scrap the 256MB chip and go straight to 2x512Mb? (It is only a puny 1.6GHz....)

	17-09-2003 18:35									#37
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marketing. pentium was such a smash success...

and for ram, www.pricewatch.com

	17-09-2003 20:28									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Q Cubed no. but with yours, definitely.

I dont have a P4 so I cant test it

Are you saying you dont have faith in Intel products?

	17-09-2003 20:43									#39
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eXtreme!!!!!

	17-09-2003 21:39									#40
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no, i'm saying i love my computer too much to even think about anything remotely dangerous for her.

	17-09-2003 21:44									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Wraith That's the inclusive L3, right?

That's what was originally thought, but there's still some confusion. The L1 and L2 are most definitely inclusive, but for the L3 the news articles from IDF have all said it will amount to a total of 2.5MB of cache on the chip (L1 + L2 = 512KB, L3 = 2MB).

	17-09-2003 22:19									#42
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quote: Originally posted by Rogan Josh Isn't it time for a name change? Why is it called 'Pentium 4'? Shouldn't the Pentium 2 have been the Hexium (or something) and Petuim 3 the 'Octium'?

They wanted to avoid the "deviated Septium" jokes that would have sprung up around the chip now called the Pentium III.

	18-09-2003 05:47									#43
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--"Isn't it time for a name change?"

They'll get around to it eventually. I think Prescott is getting a new naming scheme.

--"but for the L3 the news articles from IDF have all said it will amount to a total of 2.5MB of cache on the chip"

Yeah, but they said pretty much the same thing about the Xeons.

This just seems like a weird move for Intel right now. The P4E is going to eat into their Xeon market on the workstation side. It's also going to cause them marketing problems when Prescott comes out (especially if the L3 does make a difference). I just don't see any strategic sense to selling repackaged Xeons to the enthusiast market like this.

Oh, well. Maybe they're having more problems with their .09 process than expected.

Wraith
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	18-09-2003 08:45									#44
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90nm yields have improved faster than any other generation, according to the charts and graphs Intel showed yesterday.

They also claimed the Pentium 4 EE will be the "fastest chip released this year".

They also said the 3.2GHz will be the "first" EE...

What's happened is the high end will be the Pentium 4 EE, mainstream will be Pentium 4, and low end will be Celeron.

For AMD, Athlon 64 FX is highend (priced comparatively to the P4 EE, supposedly), Athlon 64 mainstream, and Athlon XP low-end.

	18-09-2003 08:59									#45
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I can confirm that while the P4 has some safety mechanisms for running too hot, eventually a P4 will burn out at the higher temperature. It took mine about 3 months, I guess.

	18-09-2003 09:07									#46
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I'm curious why people are masturbating over this . . .

	18-09-2003 09:17									#47
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quote: I'm curious why people are masturbating over this . . .

Well, some people's significant others aren't very attractive, so this is really all they have. Show some compassion.

	18-09-2003 09:20									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten quote: I'm curious why people are masturbating over this . . . Well, some people's significant others aren't very attractive, so this is really all they have. Show some compassion.

	18-09-2003 09:28									#50
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Mrs horse says all I care about is my comp, my cigs and my cups of tea.

	18-09-2003 09:29									#51
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Don't forget to tuck your kids in tonight, AH -- you care about those runts, right?

	18-09-2003 09:32									#52
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oh yeah them.

	18-09-2003 10:01									#53
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten Well, some people's significant others aren't very attractive, so this is really all they have. Show some compassion.

Can we please grow up and move past that. It wasn't funny the first time, nor the second, and not even the third.

The fact that both MrFun and AH laughed at it should set off big flashing lights telling you that...

	18-09-2003 10:16									#54
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oh come on Asher, we know what you're like

	18-09-2003 10:33									#55
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Did you just say Empress had a big waist line?

	18-09-2003 11:46									#56
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quote: Can we please grow up and move past that. It wasn't funny the first time, nor the second, and not even the third. The fact that both MrFun and AH laughed at it should set off big flashing lights telling you that...

I wasn't trying to be funny. I really feel for the person (who shall remain nameless) who is saddled with an ugly boyfriend because of their less than stellar personality. If that poor bastard finds his refuge in masturbating to Intel chip announcements, more power to him. We can all use a good **** to take our mind off of our troubles.

	18-09-2003 11:49									#57
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The glorious irony here, of course, is some nameless person who is saddled with an ugly body as well as a less than stellar personality and intellect, who recently moved to Japan, still couldn't get laid and will remain a virgin for all of his life. If that poor bastard finds his refuge in masturbating to Apple announcements, or attempting to bring down other people who do have people who love them and are getting laid, more power to them.

You shouldn't be in any position to talk, and one more blatant reference to my SO and I'm going to bring it up with the mods.

What's amazing is you've not only insulted him once, but this is the third time in a few days. Somebody has issues.

	18-09-2003 11:52									#58
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quote: The glorious irony here, of course, is some nameless person who is saddled with an ugly body as well as a less than stellar personality and intellect, who recently moved to Japan, still couldn't get laid and will remain a virgin for all of his life. If that poor bastard finds his refuge in masturbating to Apple announcements, or attempting to bring down other people who do have people who love them and are getting laid, more power to them.

That's the right attitude. Live and let live.

quote: You shouldn't be in any position to talk, and one more blatant reference to my SO and I'm going to bring it up with the mods.

You have an SO? I never knew...

Wonders never cease.

	18-09-2003 11:53									#59
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Don't you have something better to do? Hentai or somesuch?

	18-09-2003 11:54									#60
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Hard to look at porno at school. They tend to frown on that.