18-09-2003 05:25									#1
	LTEC! Fashion designer. Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

For dolls. They don't whine if you pinch them and save on materials.
Alternate source to support my newest (oldest) Barbie vice. I'm selling it.

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	18-09-2003 05:29									#2
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and I was going to ask you for a nice design.,...

Jon Miller

	18-09-2003 05:30									#3
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you'll whine... you know it.

	18-09-2003 05:32									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Jon Miller and I was going to ask you for a nice design.,... Jon Miller

It's not that I'm surprised to hear this, I'm surprised to hear it from you.

	18-09-2003 05:34									#5
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someone had to say it, I might as well be first

and I am at the epitome of fashion sense, ask KH or Shi or others who met me last month

JOn Miller

	18-09-2003 05:35									#6
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How about a Barbie Mutilated?

	18-09-2003 06:10									#7
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sheesh...men.

	18-09-2003 06:23									#8
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Yet another thread to hide from Bunnygrrl.

	18-09-2003 06:39									#9
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I just checked informally with my legal eagle staff who confirmed my impression that what you are doing could be a trademark infringement. You might want to get that aspect checked out before marketing into the US or indeed in Mexico given NAFTA.

Otherwise you might get a nasty bit of correspondence from Mattel.

	18-09-2003 07:19									#10
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Design something similar for MtG then take a few pictures

	18-09-2003 07:21									#11
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BTW, I think that design kicks serious bootay.

	18-09-2003 07:24									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse I just checked informally with my legal eagle staff who confirmed my impression that what you are doing could be a trademark infringement. You might want to get that aspect checked out before marketing into the US or indeed in Mexico given NAFTA. Otherwise you might get a nasty bit of correspondence from Mattel.

There's already an established market for third-party stuff. Mattel doesn't mind* since it helps drive up demand for their stuff, and squashing collectors isn't in their interest. Unlike Paramount and Universal and some others, who want to monopolize their properties.


* Assuming you don't misrepresent that you're them or endorsed by them, and you do standard trademark acknowledgments.

	18-09-2003 07:25									#13
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower Design something similar for MtG then take a few pictures

Do you really want to pass from this mortal coil with that being the last thing you ever see?

(actually, it'd be the after the last thing I ever saw, cuz I wouldn't be caught dead in such get up. )

	18-09-2003 07:25									#14
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They're not very keen on Barbie art, i.e., art using Barbies. But I've seen a lot of "mods" for Barbies. A friend of ours in Chi-town had life size Ken and Barbies. And yes, he is the queeniest person I've ever met.

	18-09-2003 07:33									#15
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Interesting - remarkably liberal attitude from Mattel - I would thought marketing say "Barbie The Crack Whore" might be considered to injure their brand image and therefore infringe their trademark.

Otoh, taking someone to court over it only gives free publicity to a niche cottage industry which is no real threat to their market so maybe they are smarter than some other corporates as you say.

	18-09-2003 07:34									#16
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara They're not very keen on Barbie art, i.e., art using Barbies. But I've seen a lot of "mods" for Barbies.

Yeah - that's classic infringement. Making accessories and fashions for them has been around since the beginning - pattern books and all. Pretty soon, I'll just have to hide out in the garage, as the rest of the house gets filled with Barbie stuff.

quote: A friend of ours in Chi-town had life size Ken and Barbies. And yes, he is the queeniest person I've ever met.

Yeah, that's hard to top. Er, uh, maybe not....

	18-09-2003 07:38									#17
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Pretty soon, I'll just have to hide out in the garage, as the rest of the house gets filled with Barbie stuff.

Bunnygrrl tried to put her Barbies in my computer room. Girrlie stuff in MY fortress of solitude!?! GAH!!!

Well! I soon put a stop to that. . . . I got a bigger apartment.

	18-09-2003 07:41									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse Interesting - remarkably liberal attitude from Mattel - I would thought marketing say "Barbie The Crack Whore" might be considered to injure their brand image and therefore infringe their trademark.

Yeah, that would get their attention, I'm sure. Probably marketing anything as Barbie the whatever would cross the line, but if you do the semantic dodge of marketing "fashions for Barbie^TM" thing, they wouldn't get on it unless it was really negative. Although LTEC! did find those Jabba the Hutt slave girl Barbies (IIRC it was a Barbie)

quote: Otoh, taking someone to court over it only gives free publicity to a niche cottage industry which is no real threat to them so maybe they are smarter than some other corporates as you say.

Actually, there's a lot of fanatic collectors (as I'm finding out ) and they make special purpose dolls just to go for that market, so it could cost them a lot of good will (i.e. $$$) if they were heavy handed with someone who made stuff that fit the image, and didn't misrepresent it. Interesting hobby/business though. Besides, it gives me an excuse to dig out my airbrush stuff and my 1/35 Panzer kits.

	18-09-2003 07:41									#19
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Bunnygrrl tried to put her Barbies in my computer room. Girrlie stuff in MY fortress of solitude!?! GAH!!! Well! I soon put a stop to that. . . . I got a bigger apartment.

Yeah, we're looking at a bigger house.

	18-09-2003 07:42									#20
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S&M Ken.

	18-09-2003 08:26									#21
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Do a Britney Barbie LTEC

	18-09-2003 08:31									#22
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AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!

Will that be with or without the trailer and the shotgun toting daddy to greet her fans?

	18-09-2003 08:34									#23
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hay hay hay

Come on LTEC don't listen to parachute boy

Do it

Do it for the children.

	18-09-2003 09:12									#24
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Besides, it gives me an excuse to dig out my airbrush stuff and my 1/35 Panzer kits.

Best idea I've seen on this whole thread Go for it.

Unintended consequences is one of those wonderful things about a good marriage

	18-09-2003 10:44									#25
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Britney!!???

I got better projects to do than waste my time with that underserving twit. :gag:
Plus, Britney is OUT these days.

	18-09-2003 10:45									#26
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You are a terrible person LTEC

Just terrible

	18-09-2003 10:46									#27
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Yes... I know

	18-09-2003 10:53									#28
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Test Auction site.
I'll post it tomorrow on ebay... bid, bid, biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid!

test site

	18-09-2003 10:53									#29
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That doll reminds of a caterpiller.

	18-09-2003 10:55									#30
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Not related to heavy equipment.