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I am downloading your scenario right now... I payed a visit to your website and I must say that I was pleased with what I saw. 
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Sounds like a fun one. Your first scenario wasn't bad and so I hope that your latest creation will be a great one
Folks, hope you'll take the time to (a) review some of the scenarios we have posted, and (b) help this brave young (?) designer improve his work by commenting on his latest.
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Well, I think there's a review or two of Rising of the Celts on our web site. Maybe I shouldn't tell you that - I don't want you to get discouraged and quit in protest .
I'm also a grad student, BTW - or will be for a few more months, then I'm going to be a professor. I have a job lined up if I can only get that PhD completed! Not married yet... but close to it.
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Curumbor Elendil
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of Númenor
Nov 1999
time: 00:13
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Ah, you're one of the lucky ones then (to have a job lined up)!  I've just finished my second year so am about to embark on the thesis.
Er, yeah, the review of "Rising" was pretty harsh! That's OK, though. It is actually a very old scenario: I created it about 3 years ago, before I got MGE/FW. And I was also very uncomfortable with my artistic skills, so yes, no new units, not very original. I must register disagreement with the assertion that it is unplayable because of the small shield counts in, say, the Scots' home cities. That's part of the challenge! The Scots absolutely must capture Glasgow and Edinburgh on the first turn and move from there. The negotiations thing is a problem, which I have fixed. And the existence of archaic units is supposed to represent the fact that the Scots and Welsh rebels would be buying their arms on global black markets from places like Iran. We're not talking state-of-the-art militaries here. But the scenario is worth working on some more now that I have more skills. Oh, BTW, the reviewer seemed to assume that I had gotten the map of Britain somewhere. I made it. IMO, it's the best map of Britain out there, certainly better than the one that comes with the 1066 scenario. 
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jason.sorens@yale.edu
ICQ 56126989
[This message has been edited by Curumbor Elendil (edited May 17, 2000).]
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Curumbor Elendil
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of Númenor
Nov 1999
time: 00:13
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Hey, I once considered doing a Lebanese Civil War scenario too! Technically, the Somalian Civil War involves dozens of militias too, but you can always consolidate. For the Lebanese scenario, I imagine you could have the Maronites, Druze, Sunnis, Shiites, Syrians (perhaps allied to the Shiites), and maybe Israelites. Most militias seemed to break down into those alliance blocs, right?
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Curumbor Elendil
jason.sorens@yale.edu
ICQ 56126989
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Sortub
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Austin, TX
Apr 2000
time: 05:13
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Curumbor-
Ahh... well... did they all fall into those blocs, kinda, sort of. Deal was, though, that it was more a war based local immediate reward more than denomination/sect. For example, in the "wars for the camps" of the early 1980s, Arafat's Fatah "conquest" faction Palestinians fought against Syrian-backed Saiqa "lightning" groups. As far as the Shi'a, the Amal were more a pro-Syrian group aimed at the notion of the Lebanee nation, while the Hezbollah were Iranian-backed--more pan-Islamist. Two Maronite groups -- Michael Aoun's Lebanese forces and Samir Jeajea's militia, contended in the early 1990s.
Suffice to say the whole thing was a damned complicated and bloody affair, and as I write this, I'm considering what could be written as an oversimplified scenario trading off with my own punctillious sense of history. I would need a lot of deliberation before coming up with an accurate, scenario-friendly depiction of the groups during the whole war from 1976-1990. If you're interested in the affair (and find the time), I strongly recommend British journalist Robert Fisk's "Pity the Nation."
Perhaps a better setting for a scenario in the area would be the Druze revolt of 1925. What's that, you may ask? Well, I read about this in my thesis research. In 1925, the Druze were split into the French mandates of Lebanon and the statelet of Jabal Druze (later incorporated into Syria). For a variety of reasons, they were really peeved and sparked an uprising against the French. Eventually, the revolt spread into Lebanon and threatened Beirut itself, while the French and their Maronite allies struggled to stop the invaders. Eventually, the Druze were stopped, but held out for a while.
You could have as civs:
Druze: Partisan-types, raiders
French: Strong European troops but not many
Maronites: Strong fighters
Sunni Muslims: Neutral
Maybe a few more as well. A.H. Hourani's "Syria and Lebanon: A History," has good info on this episode. Anyhow, just a thought.
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Civfan
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Toronto, Canada
Sep 1999
time: 05:13
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A Somalian civil war scenario, sounds interesting. I heard right now theres a war somewhere in Africa with both sides using WWII tanks and aircrafts. Might make for an interesing scenario later on. Downloading your scenario and checking out your site. Looks good. Get back to ya about the scenario after I try it. Also, your a Warlord? I've never seen ya around before. You been away for awhile. later
Civfan....
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Downloaded the new Somalia, but haven't tried it yet. Will soon, though. I love Africa.
With respect to the Middle East, could you represent some of the less important militias as "computer-only" tribes that never come into conflict with one another? Some of them could also be barbarians if they don't attack much.
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Civfan
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Toronto, Canada
Sep 1999
time: 05:13
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I downloaded your scenario the other day and have troubles loading the scenario. I read you can play on FW and MPG, but it won't load with my FW. I tried using Angello's MPG convertor to the scenario but it didn't reconize the scenario. Also I believe its the new one as theres no back up files. I checked with the units.bmp and terrian.bmp and saw only one new unit? Is this the right scenario?
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...but if you use Angelo Scotto's MGEConverter you can play some of them on FW. The program seemed to work for me for Somalia but it crashed out on the first turn, so I suspect MGEConverter couldn't handle it. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
MGEConverter is available for download off of SLeague's front page.
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Curumbor Elendil
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of Númenor
Nov 1999
time: 00:13
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Originally posted by WarVoid on 05-23-2000 05:41 PM
Finished playing as the RRA just a little while ago.
A very nice scenario indeed. Good city locations and accurate objectives. Nice unit placement.
My recommendations: Edit your diplomacy. I was able to make peace with everyone the first turn.
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I can prevent peacemaking on the first turn, but I do not want to eliminate diplomacy altogether, because the historical fact of the Somalian civil war has been the making and breaking of numerous ceasefires, peace agreements, and even alliances, which dovetails nicely with the usual sort of outcome under the MGE AI. Also, if you play the scenario to win, i.e., to conquer all of Somalia, you do not really want to make peace the first turn. (The RRA are not recommended for play, as their historical purpose was not to gain control of the Somali state, but to defend a particular clan's holdings.)
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Convert the files to gif format to save space.
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Hadn't thought about that, I'll give it a try. (As a rookie Civ artist, I edit everything in the packaged scenario editor, not in an image-editing program.)
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Need more units, just not enough of a new selection to make this seem like Somalia. It still feels like civ2, wheras it should feel like your in Somaliland. Use some of the units from the Desert Lion scenario.
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Yeah, I need to do more research and get some new ideas. Actually, I think a lot of it will involve redrawing and renaming a bunch of already existing units, like partisans, artillery, etc.
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jason.sorens@yale.edu
ICQ 56126989
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