31-03-2001 06:59									#1
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Well, he attacked in the end.

I'll post an order list some time if I get sober again. If anyone is bored and wants to do it for me I'd be most grateful as I'm away for a couple of days. Yak yak yak.

	31-03-2001 10:41									#2
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I guess I am bored...

Johnmcd 10 turns
ScouseGits 10 turns
Hueij 10 turns
Skrobism 10 turns
Marko-Polo 10 turns



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	31-03-2001 10:44									#3
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1880-1890ad The reign of Skrobism was a difficult one. Soon after taking power several cities revolted and overthrew the government. We are in a state of anarchy. The government has spent its cash reserves on rushed temples and colosseums. Workers in many cities have been turned to entertainers, and food reserves are running low in some towns. To fight the anarchy, police stations have been built as well. For the most part these measures have worked but the government has not taken hold.

We continue to be at war with the Chinese and the Souix. After a brief conflict with the Spanish, we have made Peace. It is an Uncooperative Peace but we are learning to live together. The Germans and the Carths keep a reluctant Peace with us. The Babylonians remain our Allies and have pledged support against the Chi-Comm.

I have passed the save to Marko Polo and Johnmcd.

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	31-03-2001 17:22									#4
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I've received the game. I think that we are now in the point where we must decide whether to go for conquest or AC. I really wouldn't like to make this decision all by myself - after all, we are a democracy, right? (currently in anarchy but still..)

So I suggest a poll. Hueij talked about something of fundy and building armors to prepare for invasion to Sioux & Spanish empires so I guess he stands for 'conquest'. On the other hand, this is 'No ICS no overlap game, so.. Especially I need to hear John's intensions for the game - after all, he is the 'father' of this hgame! It hard to conquer all without getting overlapping cities..

	01-04-2001 20:29									#7
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1891-1894: Point Marko & West Point founded. Sioux Bear Paw bribed. (Detailed log was destroyed by my computer crash )

1895: Carths land in front of Sideshow Bob (5 units). We happily kill them all
1896: Babylonians develop Guerilla warfare. Chinese, Sioux Nuclear fission.
1897: Spanish acquire Nuclear fission
1898: German -"-, Spanish Espionage
1899: Spanish acquire Guerilla, Sioux machine tools. Cedar creeks is bribed for 1369g, 341 plundered. Got Machine tools.
1900: Now researching for Minituarision. We steal Guerilla from Spanish, Nuclear fission from German. Advanced tribe 'Fisu' discovered.

Conclusion: we have now five more cities (all non-overlapping ). Some transports are out exploring with engineers & spies. We still have half of the map black and it's 1900ad.. We have Cedar Creeks as foothold in Sioux & Spain main land. Those Sioux cities are quite weakly defended so taking them should be no problem. Hint for WLTPD growth: Slim Buttes (right next to Cedar creeks) has CfC! Like a ripe fruit ready for picking.. Then we wouldn't need courthouses nor very unhappy people in order to WLTPD.

I tried to play my turns so that the AC/Conquest option would be left open. We are a rich fundy, getting net 600g per turn. We absolutely had to start building basic infrastructure in our cities. e.g. we had a lot of 8-sized cities without MP's or aqueducts, some very close to growing size 9.

Personally I would vote for AC. In thread "Lightning strikes twice" (sorry, too lazy to find the link) someone said that all but one games ended via conquest. So I'd agree with Hueij's idea of conquesting Sioux & Spain and then heading for the stars!

I have sent the 1900ad save game to all of us as SG(2) suggested.
[This message has been edited by Marko Polo (edited April 02, 2001).]

	04-04-2001 02:22									#8
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My vote is wait a little. Perhaps carry on conquering for 10 turns and then consider AC. The next Sioux city is Wounded Knee with CfC, which will help in demo. A useful Oedo year to consider is 1911. What do other players think? John you are in the HOT SEAT!

(Thanks for your e-mail Marko.)

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	04-04-2001 19:13									#9
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I have to take a look at this before I vote, but isn't our military a little too weak right now for conquest.

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	23-04-2001 15:59									#10
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*bump*

SG(2), did you ever received the save game I sent to you?

Someone asked in AKC thread that he likes to participate in a NON-ICS succession game. Here is one that isn't finished yet..

	04-05-2001 03:43									#11
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Just wondering, is this game still alive? And if not, how come?

	04-05-2001 07:27									#12
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Hueij,
I was wondering the same.

	14-05-2001 01:11									#14
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Who has the latest save game? I seem to have lost mine but I remember sending the save to all of you. So, does anyone have it?

	17-05-2001 01:01									#15
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No.