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Boris Godunov is offline Boris Godunov
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Apple: Handel's &quot;Messiah&quot; obscene! Put an end to popups!

Teehee.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm...itunes_handel_4

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Handel Masterpiece Gets 'Explicit' Label
Fri Sep 19,12:48 PM ET

By MATTHEW FORDAHL, AP Technology Writer

SAN JOSE, Calif. - George Frideric Handel has at least one thing in common with Eminem (news - web sites) and other modern artists: his music was slapped with an "explicit" warning at Apple Computer Inc.'s online iTunes Music Store.

The baroque composer's 1742 masterpiece, "The Messiah," was marked with the red warning that indicates the content might not be appropriate for young children or others with sensitive tastes. It's on a recording by the London Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by John Alldis.

The warning, which appeared when the album's tracks were made available Tuesday but disappeared late Tuesday, was most likely a technical mix-up, though "The Messiah" does touch on love, violence and death — in a more profound way than, say, most music produced 260 years later.

"Obviously, there's been some sort of error," said Lara Vacante, an Apple spokeswoman. She said technicians were looking into why it was mislabeled. Other juicy classics, like Giacomo Puccini's murder-and-suicide opera "Tosca," don't carry the advisory.

The online music store, which is now available only to owners of Macintosh (news - web sites) computers, has been criticized in some circles for focusing more on pop music than classical or operatic fare. It's often difficult, also, to find out who is conducting a piece or the names of soloists.

Apple recently introduced a friendlier classical home page that breaks down albums by periods such as early music, baroque, romantic and modern. It also has a category for opera.

Apple's iTunes Music Store has sold more than 10 million songs at 99 cents each since its April 28 launch, and is central to Apple's strategy to promote its computers as digital entertainment hubs.

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Isn't that the one where the chorus sings over and over: "Oh we like sheep!"?

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What's really obscene, of course, is how Handel blatantly stole about a third of his music from his rival composers!

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It certainly is. Do you know how much tickets cost!?!

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Isn't that the one where the chorus sings over and over: "Oh we like sheep!"?


Could be worse. They could be singing about the faithful coming.

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Must be the version with the donkey, Marianne Faithfull dressed in a backless nun's outfit and the bath of jelly.

Next up- the under the counter Goldberg Variations- Bach gets down and dirty. Parental advisory harpsichord passages.

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I'd hate know what they would think of the brother-sister incest in Wagner's Siegfried.

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I'd hate know what they would think of the brother-sister incest in Wagner's Siegfried.


Would they notice in Arkansas or Tennessee?

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Tennessee?


Watch it.

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Watch it.


Why, any brothers? Banjo players? Is your Deliverance at hand?

Reminds me of a friend of mine who met this very hunky R.A.F. pilot, who he found out was a twin, and whose twin brother was also gay, and...

But that's more for the Kristen Bjorn website, I think...

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They were playing banjos on NPR this morning. I've had Dueling Banjos in my head all day. Of course, I live in Deliverance country.


Just downloaded it. YE HAW! Now squeal like a pig for me, Boris. That's right, SQUEAL!

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Of course, I live in Deliverance country.
You moved again? I thought you were still in Florida.

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They were playing banjos on NPR this morning. I've had Dueling Banjos in my head all day. Of course, I live in Deliverance country.


Just downloaded it. YE HAW! Now squeal like a pig for me, Boris. That's right, SQUEAL!


Florida is not Deliverance country. I'll bet that fewer than half of your neighbors can properly pronounce "y'all" or "Lordy mercy". Fact is that if the Civil war broke out all over again tomorrow, Florida is the only part of the former United States that would be contested between Cuba and Israel.

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You moved again? I thought you were still in Florida.


Lemme put it to you this way, son. I was recently reading a copy of Jacksonville Homes. In the back they had a top ten list of reasons why Jacksonville is great. One of the reasons was this:

When people say we're more like South Georgia than South Florida, we take that as a compliment.

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it's a vast left-wing conspiracy by the forces of liberal Apple to wipe out and attack our xtian heritage.














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Florida is not Deliverance country. I'll bet that fewer than half of your neighbors can properly pronounce "y'all" or "Lordy mercy". Fact is that if the Civil war broke out all over again tomorrow, Florida is the only part of the former United States that would be contested between Cuba and Israel.


Damn straight. It'd be a contest over who we could foist it off on, too.

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Give it to Israel...I am sure they will have a great time eating lechon asado.

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So my state legislature is proposing a confederate battle flag vanity plate (we have like a million different vanity plates). The people who put the hundred foot Confederate battle flag over I-75 are behind it.

I'm gonna propose a plate that says UNION FOREVER!

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Come to think of it, the Messiah is rife with sexual connotations...maybe the label is appropriate to save our children! Just look at some of these tracks:

"But who may abide the day of His coming?"
"Behold, a virgin shall conceive"
"And lo! An angel of the Lord came upon them"
"How beautiful are the feet of them"

So we have some bukkake, foot fetishes and deflowering virgins. Tsk. Filth.

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What's really obscene, of course, is how Handel blatantly stole about a third of his music from his rival composers!


Is that true? I like Haendel - from which composers did he steal?

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So my state legislature is proposing a confederate battle flag vanity plate (we have like a million different vanity plates). The people who put the hundred foot Confederate battle flag over I-75 are behind it.

I'm gonna propose a plate that says UNION FOREVER!



I see lots of confederate bumber stickers and confederate flags here in Oklahoma even though Oklahoma wasn't apart of the Confederacy.

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I see lots of confederate bumber stickers and confederate flags here in Oklahoma even though Oklahoma wasn't apart of the Confederacy.


If you want to see lots of Confederate bumper stickers and Confederate flags, go to West Virginia. Apparently the people there are too stupid to realize that West Virginia left the confederacy to join the Union...

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Or Mississippi. Long live General Lee!

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If you want to see lots of Confederate bumper stickers and Confederate flags, go to West Virginia. Apparently the people there are too stupid to realize that West Virginia left the confederacy to join the Union...


This is weird, but I used to see a lot of confederate battle flag stickers on buses and taxis in Grenada during Maurice Bishop's socialist regime. Evidently the folks just figured the symbol had something to do with rebellion without considering that it represented a rebellion of slaveowners. Probably better than 90% of the population of Grenada are descended from slves brought there to work on plantations.

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Is that true? I like Haendel - from which composers did he steal?


Alas, 'tis true:

"If ever there was a truly great and original genius in any art, Handel was that genius in music; and yet, what may seem no slight paradox, there never was a greater plagiary. He seized without scruple or concealment, whatever suited his purpose. But as those sweets which the bee steals from a thousand flowers, by passing throught its little laboratory, are converted into a substance peculiar to itself, and which no other art can effect, --- so, whatever Handel stole, by passing through the powerful laboratory of his mind, and mixing with his ideas, became as much his own as if he had been the inventor. Like the bee, too, by his manner of working, he often gave to what was unnoticed to its original situation, something of high and exquisite flavour: To Handel might well be applied, what Boileau, with more truth than modesty, says of himself -- Et même en imitant toujours originel."

-- Source: Uvedale Price, "Essays on Decorations," in Essays on the Picturesque as compared with the Sublime and the Beautiful, Hereford 1798, II, 196.

He borrowed from Bononcini, who was his greatest rival at the time. Handel was rather unabashed about it, remarking, "It's much too good for him; he did not know what to do with it."

Those from whom he borrowed are now pretty obscure. He didn't steal from those contemporaries with whom he was either friends (Telemann, Gluck), or whom he revered (Bach).

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Thanks for this insight, very interesting

Still like his stuff a lot. Maybe it is because that was the first classical music I ever heard (on a record of "Watermusic" and "Music for the Royal Fireworks" from my parents I heard as a child)

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If you ever have a great stereo check out Frederick Fennell's recording of the Royal Fireworks music for wind band. It's speaker blowing material.

 
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