21-09-2003 23:50									#1
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My first Question: Who has the largest population from the mission report?

Second: Would it be to our advantage or disadvantage to call a council now?

Also, prior to calling council, we should most certainly milk our Drone contact for as much as they're worth.

Has there been any response from Buster and the rest yet to any communications, or have we sent any?

	21-09-2003 23:58									#2
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I don't know the answer to the population question but we would not be a candidate for governorship IIRC.

We should NOT call council now . ABSOLUTELY NOT . . . NO NO NO . . .. I think you get my feeling on this-- right now we can trade with everyone and use what they give us to trade with someone else-- as soon as the council is called, we lose that ability-- GIven our tech position the others will naturally start trading with each other instead of us.


I sent a message to ambassador mongoose, listed as ambassador for the drones, a short time ago offering treaty and possible trade but have not heard back yet.

	22-09-2003 00:09									#3
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that's what I thought as far as the council goes.

I do feel it would be advantageous for us to be the ones to call it when the time comes, however.

	22-09-2003 00:38									#4
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we are allowed to look at the faction reports from the commlink, right?

	22-09-2003 00:42									#5
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Most certainly, why?

	22-09-2003 01:56									#6
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quote: Originally posted by FlameFlash Most certainly, why?

A assume he was going to open the last turn and see where the council votes stood --

	22-09-2003 04:48									#7
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Roze. Miriam and the Hive are all ahead of us and I think the PUT are too.

	22-09-2003 04:48									#8
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From the 'faction profile' menu off of the comlink menu, right?

	22-09-2003 04:49									#9
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Err... Flubber, your PM box is full... or so Maniac tells me.

	22-09-2003 05:36									#10
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For ease of reference, these are how things stood in the latest save, with notable SE effects (Categories not mentioned are +0):

Roze- 28 votes. Frontier, FM, Survival
Thus: +2 Econ, -6 Police, -3 Planet, +2 Probe

Hive- 26 votes. Police, Planned, Wealth
Thus: -2 Morale, -1 Econ, +2 Support, +2 Police, +3 Growth, +3 Ind

Miriam- 25 votes. Frontier, Planned, Survival
Thus: -2 Effic, +2 Growth, -1 Planet, +1 Probe, +1 Ind, -2 Research

PEACE- 16 votes. Frontier, Simple, Wealth
Thus: -2 Morale, +1 Econ, -1 Effic, -1 Growth, +1 Ind

Cycon- 15 votes. Frontier, Planned, Wealth
Thus:-2 Morale, +1 Econ, +1 Growth, +2 Ind, +2 Research

Drones- 12 votes. Frontier, FM, Wealth
Thus: -2 Morale, +3 Econ, -5 Police, -3 Planet, +3 Ind, -2 Research

PUT- 12 votes. Frontier, FM, Wealth
Thus: -2 Morale, +3 Econ, -5 Police, -3 Planet, -2 Probe, +1 Ind, +2 Rsrch


Roze and Miriam being pacted, its likely (certain?) Miriam would add her votes to Roze.

Please direct your attention to the Hive stats. They are going to have monstrous bases soon, what with the fast growth + ease of building units to make use of their police rating. The Planetary Transit Tystem and (was it the Genome Project?) don't hurt them either. It gets even worse for us if they grab Ascetic Virtues.

The Drones with their Economy and Industry are particularly potent as well.

The PUT will soon (if not already) start feeling the bite of drones in a big way, but their Econ/Research is still significant, though probably not as worrisome as the Hive or Drones.

And of course our friends, the Cycon, with respectable stats all around, who look like they are about to build Virtual World (crawlers at nearly every base)...too bad for the PUT. [Soon it may be a good time to start carefully sowing the seeds of conflict between PUT and Cycon...]


All in all, if left to progress naturally, our strength relative to the other factions can probably ONLY DECLINE as time goes on. Our peak will end 15-30 years. I reccomend we start seriously considering military action.

	22-09-2003 05:52									#11
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Good work Foolish. We are already considering military action, it is a question of getting the sufficient tech.

	22-09-2003 09:03									#12
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Now I think it's a question of prioritizing to get the tech. We're in obvious need and attacking the AI would be the wisest thing to do... especially before they make too much contact with the other factions.