22-09-2003 10:26									#1
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From Civ3.com

quote: More Techs: Map the world using Satellites to explore the entire map.

Some of you have undoubtably noticed this before but C3C will include satellite operations. I was quite dissapointed this wasn't included in the original game.

If it's done the way (I think) I would like, there will be a small wonder, the "National Reconnaissance System" or something. This will unveil the entire map to the builder. You will also be able to see enemy unit positions. I would have a toggle feature where the player can elect to watch AI moves throughout the AI turn or not. Thus we don't have to watch AI units mindlessly roam about; but if you're at war watching the AI move will probably keep you better informed. I think submarines should remain invisible, or at most become visible only near the end of the tech tree.

	22-09-2003 12:04									#2
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This is good news. Hopefully there will be different editor options for it. Obviously, it will show all tiles and correctly show city sizes. Then there's the question of whether it can "investigate city," whether it sees regular units, and whether it sees invisible units.

	22-09-2003 12:11									#3
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Ooooo, do we get to do like Alpha Centauri and have defensive one to shoot down nukes?? (ala the 'Star Wars' program from the 80's)

	22-09-2003 12:14									#4
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There is a small wonder that does that already.

	22-09-2003 14:58									#5
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Strategic Missile Defense, yeah But a backup for the times you might not get it would be nice

	22-09-2003 17:43									#6
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I think they mean when you discover satellites you get the world map...

Or it's just a small wonder that works like Apollo used to in civ2, in that it reveals the world map...

	22-09-2003 21:31									#7
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SMD is so late in the tree that unless you decide specificly not to win by space race, it's not going to be built.

	22-09-2003 23:59									#8
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There better be more to this wonder than just revealing the world map. By the time you get satellites you've probably purchased a map of everything from the AI(s). ...Those AIs are so dillegent at uncovering each little tile.

	23-09-2003 01:15									#9
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Perhaps it will also give you constant info on other civs military units?

	23-09-2003 05:45									#10
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quote: Originally posted by joncnunn SMD is so late in the tree that unless you decide specificly not to win by space race, it's not going to be built.

My post also carried the implication that you could use the SMD flag on the satellites in a modded game to make the satellites shoot down nukes.

	24-09-2003 07:56									#11
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from the chat:

quote: what does the new satellite wonder reveal, the map or troop locations? the map

Well that's disappointing, if not useless.

	24-09-2003 08:32									#12
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either way, the map is a great bonus

	24-09-2003 10:18									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Defcon5 from the chat: Well that's disappointing, if not useless.

Yep, that's quite disappointing. They could have come with a better idea.

	24-09-2003 12:05									#14
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Hey whiners...

Now we can mod the game so tech XXX reveals the map.

It is a great mod functionality

	24-09-2003 15:21									#15
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quote: what does the new satellite wonder reveal, the map or troop locations? the map

Unlike in Civ2, this is a small wonder I presume?

	25-09-2003 08:10									#16
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What about just using satalight like a unit? Your can reveal
so many spaces a per turn and you have to have the
Apollo program Aluminum and oil to build a satalight.
this way the little third world civs cant get the whole
map revealed.

	25-09-2003 09:33									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Elias What about just using satalight like a unit? Your can reveal so many spaces a per turn and you have to have the Apollo program Aluminum and oil to build a satalight. this way the little third world civs cant get the whole map revealed.

I like the idea of needing multiple satellites to view more of the world... BUT you should be able to see troop locations also.

	25-09-2003 09:49									#18
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oops i spelled satellite wrong Pardon my spelling. Yeah one satellite cant see the whole world you should be able to see
current troop locations but not be able to see movement.
allthough that would probably be harder do put into the game.