23-09-2003 14:01									#1
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I'm totally puzzled. Any speculatios?

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	23-09-2003 14:19									#2
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I have no idea what that tile is supposed to be.

Is that lava near the volcano? It looks like pollution.

Btw, wtf is the city building? A Stela?

Also check out the "luxuries" column, between Improvements and production/food/commerce. They have 2 wines, 2 dyes, and 5 WHAT ??? 5 invisible luxuries?

One more thing: I thought exotic birds are luxuries. Well, apparently they are not. They appear under "strategic resources". I wonder what are they good for?

	23-09-2003 14:43									#3
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I'm really astonished about your observation skills !

It is clear that is an Alpha version,I suppose it is a kind of terrain improvement related to irrigation....perhaps...or maybe a specific terrain resources.....perhaps....

Funny thing is also the " stealth luxury "

Hope Alpha versions will be tested a lot before releasing them.

Gunter

	23-09-2003 14:47									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Tiberius One more thing: I thought exotic birds are luxuries. Well, apparently they are not. They appear under "strategic resources". I wonder what are they good for?

Some Aztec or Inca units might require elaborate feathered headgear.

	23-09-2003 14:55									#5
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet Some Aztec or Inca units might require elaborate feathered headgear.

	23-09-2003 15:03									#6
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I figured it must be something like that.
Think about what the description would be like:

Aztec special unit: xxx
Requires: iron and exotic birds

	23-09-2003 15:04									#7
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I know it sounds silly, but I really think it could be the right answer.

	23-09-2003 15:19									#8
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Wow, that's an old screenshot.

stela

\Ste"la\, n.; pl. Stel[ae]. [L., from Gr. ? a post, an upright stone.] (Gr. Antiq.) A small column or pillar, used as a monument, milestone, etc.

	23-09-2003 15:25									#9
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Maybe they eat the birds

	23-09-2003 15:56									#10
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quote: Originally posted by WarpStorm stela \Ste"la\, n.; pl. Stel[ae]. [L., from Gr. ? a post, an upright stone.] (Gr. Antiq.) A small column or pillar, used as a monument, milestone, etc.

Aha, so it's a column used as a monument. Thanks.
But what does it do? Generates culture or something more?
Nevermind, I'll find out soon.

	23-09-2003 15:57									#11
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quote: Originally posted by statusperfect Maybe they eat the birds

I could understand that, but do they have to eat exotic birds?

	23-09-2003 16:20									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Tiberius Aztec special unit: xxx Requires: iron and exotic birds

I have always disliked genetic experiments

Gunter

	24-09-2003 00:47									#13
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The Exotic Birds resource was talked about in an article, a long time ago.

The feathers of the birds are used to make the arrows and whatnot.

Basically, without the EB, you won't be able to build certain units.

	24-09-2003 01:03									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Tiberius I could understand that, but do they have to eat exotic birds?

Maybe they eat exotic bird eggs?

	24-09-2003 02:26									#15
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Those are dangerous birds, we lose pop points for every rushed warrior.

	24-09-2003 05:15									#16
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I read somewhere the birds are a strategic because the feathers are needed for arrows. At least in this conquest they are.

	24-09-2003 07:36									#17
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quote: Originally posted by WarpStorm Wow, that's an old screenshot. stela \Ste"la\, n.; pl. Stel[ae]. [L., from Gr. ? a post, an upright stone.] (Gr. Antiq.) A small column or pillar, used as a monument, milestone, etc.

There are many such stela in northern Ethiopia, especially near Aksum and Lalibela. One of the most famous stelae was stolen by Italian forces in 1935/36 and is still displayed in Italy despite the objections of the Ethiopian government.

	25-09-2003 05:26									#18
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Maybe they're cultural lines of some sort, like the Nazca lines, which some UFO nuts claimed were built as landing strips for UFOs.

	25-09-2003 06:36									#19
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quote: Originally posted by pikesfan Maybe they're cultural lines of some sort, like the Nazca lines, which some UFO nuts claimed were built as landing strips for UFOs.

WHAT?! You mean that they were not?!

But getting back to the topic on hand - does anyone have a definative answer as to what those 3 lines (looks like furrows) are on the screen shot?

	25-09-2003 06:56									#20
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Yes, i do It's a bonus resource.

	25-09-2003 07:01									#21
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How could that be a maize -- the furrows are straight? You'd never get lost in that!

(Must be a resource, since it isn't within a city radius.)

EDIT: Warpstorm, how could you do that!? I make a bad pun/joke, and then you eliminate the reference.

(bleepin' playtester!)

Last edited by Jaybe on 25-09-2003 at 08:39

	25-09-2003 07:11									#22
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quote: Originally posted by WarpStorm Yes, i do It's a bonus resource.

Ok, I'll bite. What type of bonus resource is it WarpStorm? (ie, what is the resource called?)

	25-09-2003 07:13									#23
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Ah, could it be a copper resource by any chance?

EDIT: Or is it a clay resource?

	25-09-2003 10:31									#24
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More importantly: is it a scenario specific resource, or we can find in the standard game, too?

(it could be a clay)

	25-09-2003 12:44									#25
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And exotic bird egg resource?

	25-09-2003 13:42									#26
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Judging from the reference in Jaybe's post it looks like Warpstrom originally said it was a Maize resource, but then edited it out.

	25-09-2003 14:58									#27
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet Judging from the reference in Jaybe's post it looks like Warpstrom originally said it was a Maize resource, but then edited it out.

Maize would make sense as a Mesoamerican scenario specific resource, indeed. It could be a replacement for wheat.

	25-09-2003 16:02									#28
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quote: Originally posted by Tiberius More importantly: is it a scenario specific resource, or we can find in the standard game, too? (it could be a clay)

Yes,this is the most important question.

Scenarios are always under floodlights,but the epic game IMO is the thing that we have never to forget because it is the core feature of the game,otherwise Civ with scenarios only will look like to an arcade game,and Civ fans I believe hate to see " game over " and " insert coin ".

Gunter

	26-09-2003 02:54									#29
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Not to worry, Gunter, there are additions to the epic game also.