24-09-2003 01:31									#1
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i played as the mameluks and released jersuleam but whne i go back to the scenario picker screen its not there when i click on the saved game and look at the shields.

	24-09-2003 01:51									#2
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Did you right-click on the shields to get the whole list of countries? It should be there.

	24-09-2003 02:53									#3
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it wasn't, and im just so mad because i want to play as other countries.

	24-09-2003 18:55									#4
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Weird... I've done that myself, and I was able to find it... You DID save after the release of the vassal, right?

	25-09-2003 01:24									#5
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yea iu did i tried it about a thounsand times and it never works???

	25-09-2003 01:24									#6
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I've do that all the time and I've never had a problem. What version of the game are you using?

	25-09-2003 01:54									#7
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I know it was already asked, but you did right click on the highlighted shield and scroll through the list to select it, right?

	25-09-2003 02:15									#8
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what do you mean, what version???

	25-09-2003 02:17									#9
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when loading the save game, I mean.

	25-09-2003 04:17									#10
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Huh?

	25-09-2003 06:23									#11
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When you select your save game, rightclick on your previous nation shield (in this case mameluks) and scroll through the list and select the new country you want to play as. Then play.

	25-09-2003 15:38									#12
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thats what I do, but it never appears there.

	25-09-2003 16:04									#13
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Then you
1) haven't seen close enough, or
2) haven't saved after the releasing of KoJ as a vassal.

I see no other possibilities right now...

	26-09-2003 00:01									#14
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i will look again, but everytime i open the saved game and go to gold sheild and right click it aint there, i mean must you realease it as a vassal?

	26-09-2003 00:37									#15
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quote: Originally posted by ambrose33 , i mean must you realease it as a vassal?

Of course you have to release it as a vassal! That was said from the beginning...

	26-09-2003 01:26									#16
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well i did that with wales, and jerusalem but it still did not work i mean i went to the w's and the t's but they werent there what do i do? I alsom have another question i downloaded the 1.07 patch so i could play independent europe mode and i downloaded iem and it didn't work, can you give me an idea of y?

	26-09-2003 02:55									#17
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You did release them as a vassal while playing the game, yes? You have to do that before saving.

	02-10-2003 15:21									#18
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I think I've had similar problems before... it's strange but it's true... just reload and try again...

	02-10-2003 15:23									#19
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quote: Originally posted by ambrose33 what do you mean, what version???

Which patch are you using? Many parts of the game change depending upon which patch you use.

	02-10-2003 15:28									#20
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quote: Originally posted by ambrose33 thats what I do, but it never appears there.

Ok, just to be sure I'm going to walk you through it step by step.

1) first highlight the country which you were playing when the game was saved. The country must be high lighted or it will not work.

2) Right click on the highlighted shield and a drop down menu will appear. Depending upon the speed of your computer and the amount of available memory this might take a few seconds.

3) From the drop down menu you will see a list of all available nations. Since you saved the game after KoJ was released as a vassal then you should see "Kingdom of Jerusalam" as an option (It's shield is a black cross on a grey background).

4) Left click on the KoJ and the drop down menu will disappear leaving you with the KoJ as you new highlighted shield.

5) load game as normal.

	02-10-2003 15:30									#21
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I think that's what he tried, Oerdin

	02-10-2003 15:32									#22
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as for the version number, you can see it on the startup screen

	02-10-2003 15:35									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion I think that's what he tried, Oerdin

He's having trouble so I thought I'd break it down for him. One of my friends works at a call in tech support line and he told me people often miss things which people who use the program often take for granted. Thus spelling things out step by step sometimes helps to solve the problem.

	02-10-2003 16:22									#24
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Alright then. I don't work in a call center....