28-09-2003 01:42									#31
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quote: Originally posted by SnowFire Hmm... I'd say that's actually my least favorite deck in some ways of the precons.

Which one would you recommend instead?

	28-09-2003 03:38									#32
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Never mind. I forgot about the Green preconstructed. Which uses Viridian Shaman and Artifacts in the same deck. AHHHHH. Not to mention Copper Myr, by far the worst of the crew, especially when you compare it to Vine Trellis/Wirewood Elf/etc.

I like both the White one and the Red-Black one. I think the Red-Black one is more amusing, but the White one is probably easier to improve and modify.

	07-10-2003 11:16									#33
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Platinum Angel annoys me. As I was commenting to SnowFire just now, it strikes me as unbelievably smarmy. I can just hear R&D now; "Oh, look at us! We're breaking *rules*! Aren't we just the most cutting edge trendsetters ever?" Bleah.

In terms of brokenness, phooey. It dies easily to absolutely buckets of things, and more to the point, not losing is far less important than actively winning. This card is mediocre for the same reason that lifegain is mediocre; unless you have a plan to put into place, it does nothing for you.

Also, I want to publicly claim credit for the infinite Ornithopters decks. Now I just need absolute buckets of cash to buy the super-rare pieces, which I will misuse horribly. Spike is rolling in his grave.

Deck I want to build most right now: Shared Fate + Leveler. Yes, it's obvious, but it's just too much fun.

	08-10-2003 00:37									#34
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(I so posted this months ago in the Magic thread...)

	08-10-2003 01:38									#35
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quote: unless you have a plan to put into place, it does nothing for you.

I have a plan to gain so much life that you cannot kill me.

Of course the deck works better with the new cards that allow you to win for having 50 life.

	12-10-2003 06:54									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Korendil Platinum Angel annoys me. As I was commenting to SnowFire just now, it strikes me as unbelievably smarmy. I can just hear R&D now; "Oh, look at us! We're breaking *rules*! Aren't we just the most cutting edge trendsetters ever?" Bleah.

I second that motion.

Although, I only have praise for another card in that category, Liar's Pendulum. It's just crazy.

	19-10-2003 08:21									#37
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2x Trolls of Tel-Jilad
4x Treetop Scout
1x Plated Slagwurm
1x Wall of Mulch
3x Giant Spider
2x Creeping Mold
2x Tel-Jilad Exile
2x Predators Strike
4x Basking Rootwalla
4x Vine Trellis
1x Explosive Vegetation
1x Llanowar Elves
2x Journey of Discovery
1x One Dozen Eyes
4x One with Nature
1x Call of the Wild
1x Bloodscent
1x Living Hive

23x Forest

Can anyone help me improve this decklist I came up with?

	20-10-2003 02:04									#38
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Hmm, that just might be a deck that has TOO much mana. Anyway, it reminds me of a fun article I read recently:
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=mtgcom/daily/mg93
He has a Living Hive deck in there, should be fun to look at.

Anyway, one thing you might consider is trying to take it more heavily towards Elves. Then instead of the Journey of Discoveries, you can use things like Wirewood Channeler & Elvish Guidance to power out your gigantic Slagwurms & Hives. In fact, with Channeler & Birchlore, you don't even have to play huge Green spells; you can unload with giant Blazes or Akroma, since the Channeler gives you whatever color of mana you like.

And oh yes. Trolls of Tel-Jihad are almost outright worse than Horned Troll, a common in 8th: they cost more, cost more to regenerate, and merely get an extra point of toughness (which you almost never care about, since it can regenerate). Also, Bloodscent is almost outright worse than Lure, which is cheaper and permenant- and you lose very little by it being "slower."

	20-10-2003 07:30									#39
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quote: Originally posted by SnowFire And oh yes. Trolls of Tel-Jihad are almost outright worse than Horned Troll, a common in 8th: they cost more, cost more to regenerate, and merely get an extra point of toughness (which you almost never care about, since it can regenerate).

I think you mean Tel-Jilad Exile. Trolls of Tel-Jilad is a 5/6 that regenerates all green creatures. I agree that the Exiles are crap. They are only staying thier until I get the Troll Ascetics I need to replace them.