26-09-2003 07:36									#1
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What's everyone's highest gold per turn for a resource? In my current game, Gandhi is paying me 56 gpt for coal. I think I may have seen higher, but can't remember.

	26-09-2003 07:50									#2
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I have the diplomatic skills of an Ogre, so I seldom get any GPT deals after the ancient era.

	26-09-2003 07:53									#3
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I have gotten 87 GPT for Uranium

	26-09-2003 08:35									#4
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i have goten 56 for iron in the modern times. I dont know why
lincon wanted it so bad but he was a massive nation with
lots of money to give.

	26-09-2003 08:40									#5
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In the late game you can get hundreds of GPT for techs (and probably resources) if the AI really wants it.

	26-09-2003 08:42									#6
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Elias what level do you play at? Iron is not important in the Modern Age.

	26-09-2003 08:49									#7
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I dont rember that game was a while ago so maby warlord.I play on Monarch now but for a long time I played on warlord
because I could never keep up in tec with the harder civs.
I just rember that the U.S took up the whole map There was just me and one other tiny nation.

	26-09-2003 08:49									#8
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Must have been for railroads. Just mildly important, especially if you've been at war and have some repairs/reconstruction to do.

	26-09-2003 08:50									#9
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By a long time i mean a few Years.

	26-09-2003 08:53									#10
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I thought rail roads only needed coal? I know that factories
need Iron to build so maby if i hadent sold them iron they
wouldent have built up a massive army and wasted me.

	26-09-2003 11:25									#11
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you dont get GPT AFTER ancient era?

i normally don't get any during ancient because the AI feels its not ready for such deals or something.
even when asking 1 GPT for a tech, they "will never do such a deal" Only later on i can get GPT deals.

And i do play deity where the AI evolves faster than on another diff
(or is the science fast compared to the expanding than in other difficulties?, for example an average AI now has 15 cities at end of ancient, and would have had more in lower diff's because ancient ends later?)

	26-09-2003 11:49									#12
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quote: ... for example an average AI now has 15 cities at end of ancient, and would have had more in lower diff's because ancient ends later?)

No, it is because they start out with more units (more settlers?). I have never played beyond Regent/Prince, on Civ2 or 3.

	26-09-2003 11:53									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Nuclear Master Elias what level do you play at? Iron is not important in the Modern Age.

Nope, but the AIs often buy resources that are largely useless in the late game, i.e. saltpeter.

	27-09-2003 00:00									#14
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If you trade modern era resources like rubber, aluminum, etc you can get really good money for it. In my current game I get 147 per turn for Aluminum.

So long....

	27-09-2003 00:39									#15
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Why on earth do you want to let some one get aluminum? It allows them to build weapons that can be used against you and the money is not worth it.
Even if you have a weak civ that you want to see make MA's to fight another civ, you are not helping them, by taking all their money. Better to give it if you think you need to help them. I find you really cannot help them, except to attack their foe.

	27-09-2003 00:48									#16
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I've gotten 188 gpt for a resource before, that is fairly common. But I do play on HUGE maps so the AI probably has a lot of disposable income.

Well, they do before I siphon it off anyway............

	27-09-2003 08:57									#17
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I get a hundred plus change most games, at one time or another, except for the games in which it is Me vs. The World.

	27-09-2003 20:12									#18
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quote: Originally posted by vmxa1 Why on earth do you want to let some one get aluminum? It allows them to build weapons that can be used against you and the money is not worth it. Even if you have a weak civ that you want to see make MA's to fight another civ, you are not helping them, by taking all their money. Better to give it if you think you need to help them. I find you really cannot help them, except to attack their foe.

Cash is the only reason my friend! You need it in order to buy techs from the people you are selling aluminum to. So the cash just goes around for the benefit of everybody. Aluminum is of no use to me if I have a backward civ.

So long...

	28-09-2003 11:33									#19
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i really dont renember but i never get the AI to give me more then 100 gold per turn

	28-09-2003 21:07									#20
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well, this image is from a previous AU course where the map was fairly large, and tech costs were increased..

note how much gpt I was getting from all AIs, and the individual deals..

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	28-09-2003 22:38									#21
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You're giving Osman 50 gpt in return for him giving you 155 gpt with 8 turns left till expiration?

How did you get him to agree to that trade?

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	28-09-2003 22:43									#22
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hi ,

there are reports of people who have getton over 5000 gpt , ......


in one game 2150 gpt from the az for uranium in the year 2000

have a nice day

	28-09-2003 23:02									#23
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quote: Originally posted by panag in one game 2150 gpt from the az for uranium in the year 2000

Why did Arizona need Uranium?

	28-09-2003 23:03									#24
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , there are reports of people who have getton over 5000 gpt , ...... in one game 2150 gpt from the az for uranium in the year 2000 have a nice day

	28-09-2003 23:09									#25
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Why did Arizona need Uranium?

hi ,

AZ = aztecs

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	28-09-2003 23:16									#26
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb You're giving Osman 50 gpt in return for him giving you 155 gpt with 8 turns left till expiration? How did you get him to agree to that trade?

those are 2 seperate trades made in the same turn, with the second one involving me trading Osman a tech.

Since the AI was constantly at war with one another and myself, I wanted to try something else instead of gifting/trading resources and lux to the AI to ensure their loyalty of my trading partners.

And since the tech cost was raised so much in that game (was it AU402? I can't remember), I knew I could gift the AI with gpt and get that gold back when I trade them the tech and thus improving relationships and hopefully ensuring the AI doesn't side against me in a MA.

I can't say for sure that it worked since the game ran so slow on my computer, but during the turns I tried that.. my AI trading partners didn't side against me in a MA.

EDIT: and somehow I missed the point of the thread being gpt from resources..

oh well, resources, techs.. it's all gpt from the AI in the end..

	28-09-2003 23:49									#27
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Once I got 287gpt for Iron to one civ and the next turn I got 231gpt for oil.

	29-09-2003 11:53									#28
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300 + for a monopoly tech . If you trade it all round , to the strongest first , then you can get 1000+ from 3 to 4 civs .

	30-09-2003 19:43									#29
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Pardon me for straying off topic a bit.

I couldn't help but notice a map in the screenshot that Pea posted looked pretty huge with a zillion city dots on it.

Is there a new map size in PTW? like "Extra Huge" or "Gigantic" ?


As for the trading, I've never gotten a gpt. For some reason, I always end up either doing simple diplomacy or complete warfare. Guess I'm no Machiavelli.

	30-09-2003 19:47									#30
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It's quite easy to earn very large sums of money if you own the right amount of rare resources.