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Snotty
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Hmm. The only thing I can think of is that she is asking for your only source of wine. To you it appears grey in the top right corner, but you can still trade it if you click on it.
But I dont remember if the AI ever asks you for your only source of something.
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Snotty
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try cutting chunks off with a paint program. or save it with a lower resolution/ number of colours.
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Snotty
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Ah. In which case perhaps try saving the game rather than sending the auto save. I hear auto save doesnt compress the save file.
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PeaSoup
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Vancouver, BC
Nov 2001 time: 21:31
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quote: Originally posted by The Pioneer
Also, in this turn (after I saved the game) I asked the English to withdraw their forces from my valuable land and THEY declared war on me. Fair enough. Now, I had a mutual protection pact with the Persians and the Spanish but these two also had a MPP with the english too and in the next turn they sided with the english and declared war on me?!?! What gives? Shouldn't they side with me since the English were the aggressors? How does MPP work when it comes to such a situation?
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for the MPP to trigger in your favor and have Persians and Spanish declare war on the English, you must leave at least 1 surviving English unit inside your borders. the MPP will be triggered the next turn and the above 2 civs will go to war with the English.
And remember, you can't have a single unit inside English's cultural borders, even if the unit did not attack anything.
However, I'm not sure when the MPP triggers, if it triggers during Persian and Spain's turns.. and if Lizzie had her turn first, she may be able to sign an alliance against you. Though I THINK it triggers at the beginning of the next turn, before everyone moves.. can anyone confirm?
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Tiberius

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Europe
Jan 2000 time: 06:31
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First of all, you uploaded the save where you have already made the deal with the Ecology and the wines, so I can only guess what happened.
So: you had sold your only wine to Spain (a deal that will expire in 3 turns), then you bought wines from England ! (will expire in 16 turns)
So you have one local wine, you import one wine and you export one wine 
After cancelling the trade with the spanish, I should have had 2 wines (1 local, 1 imported). Despite this, when offering wines to the French, it appeared as if I had only one (so with a 0 near the wines, in the trade screen). I was able to sell that wine, and my cities are still using the import wine.
What I understand from this is that in the trade screen, only local resources appear (I didn't know this). You can't sell something that is imported.
Pioneer, when there is a zero near a luxury/resource in the trade screen, it means that you have only one such luxury/resource (and you are using it for your own cities). Nevertheless, you can sell it, just click on it. Be careful, your cities will not be able to use it during the trade period! This is why you were able to buy later wines from England.
Last edited by Tiberius on 30-09-2003 at 23:39
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