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	11-01-2004 00:51									#213
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You know its your own fault the Danes are attacking you. By making the rule that we can't take the AI's cities and with England being run by the AI he's only left with France and Burgundy.

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Empress Slutmuffin is quite content with the peaceful world the Empire lives in. Although she oft wonders what ever became of Rome, Gaul, and the other provences. And why are these pesky desert nomads skulking around her cities?

	11-01-2004 07:07									#214
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Not skulking, picnicing

	11-01-2004 09:06									#215
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quote: Originally posted by Masuro Not skulking, picnicing

Picnicing? I think their scoping out the cities looking for one without defenders in it so they can run in and claim it is what I'm thinking.

Fortunately I started out with connecting roads and can shuffle my Spearmen around to make it appear I have them in every city..............

	11-01-2004 11:52									#216
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The Muslim people only want peace with their neighbours. And someone to help defend against those nasty Western Europeans

	11-01-2004 19:38									#217
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quote: Originally posted by Masuro Silly Orthodox Christian person . . . . . The Muslim people only want peace with their neighbours. And someone to help defend against those nasty Western Europeans

Who? I only know of two civilizations in this world. You and me. All the rest are long lost Barbarians who spend their days picking bugs out of each other's hair.

	12-01-2004 01:04									#218
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb You know its your own fault the Danes are attacking you. By making the rule that we can't take the AI's cities and with England being run by the AI he's only left with France and Burgundy.

Nothing in that rule to stop the Danes destroying the English, driving the Rus out of the Baltic and turning it into a Danish lake. After that they would be virtually unchallenged in Scandinavia and the British Isles. Then again, they will have to build some new berserks first.

Since the Danes have run out of Frankish coastal cities they will, no doubt, eventually get around to the Mediterranean.

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	12-01-2004 01:53									#219
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Harassing the Franks is too much fun for that though.

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quote: Originally posted by CerberusIV Nothing in that rule to stop the Danes destroying the English, driving the Rus out of the Baltic and turning it into a Danish lake. After that they would be virtually unchallenged in Scandinavia and the British Isles. Then again, they will have to build some new berserks first.

Yes there was. The rule specifically stated we COULD NOT destroy any of the AI civ's cities or take them. We can only reclaim cities they take from us or temporarily take them and give them back to the AI. I can't attack the Kievian Rus because of this rule.

That's why the Danes are having to attack you.

	12-01-2004 03:12									#221
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I had a look back at where we discussed this. It seems to depend on where you draw the line between "pruning" and wiping out. Didn't say you can't raze an inconvenient AI city or two, just that you can't wipe them out entirely.

Doesn't really matter to me now. Nantes is next for the trashpile anyway.

	12-01-2004 11:57									#222
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Since I brought up this rule, a word of clarification. It was intended to stop players from growing at the expense of the AI, which would have been a pretty unfair advantage, since not every player has equal "access" to an AI civ and in the early scenario it is much cheaper to take an AI city than to build an own, especially since from the SP scenario everyone knows where the defenders are and how many. That's why I brought up a ban of taking AI cities while allowing to raze them.

By the way, nothing in this rule said, that the Danes have to go berserk from turn 1. They have chosen so themselves and will pay the price.

	13-01-2004 00:11									#223
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I guess I misunderstood the rules. I thought you could attack AI cities as long as you didn't keep them if you won. I have done this to a few English cities. If I had known I would have put all my forces against the Franks. As of now he's only seen 1/3 of my forces.

Are we allowed to attack and raze AI cites? Also, if I kill the last English king the English will be wiped. Is that allowed?

	13-01-2004 00:14									#224
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quote: Originally posted by Sir Ralph By the way, nothing in this rule said, that the Danes have to go berserk from turn 1. They have chosen so themselves and will pay the price.

Why are my units named Beserks then? We'll see who'd going to pay.

	13-01-2004 00:54									#225
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SirOsis: Make sure to leave the last English Monarch in a city other than the western most one. (You can check the scenario map in the Conquest folder to tell which one I am talking about.) When you kill the last King unit all of the civ and its units are destroyed INCLUDING any Holy Relics it posesses. I found that out the hard way when I was playing it SP. So you should try to take the Holy Relic BEFORE you kill the last King unit if you want to gain control of it.

That western most city holds a King unit and the Holy Relic. I don't think the AI is likely to move them around much but if you leave units around it they will eventually attack you with the Holy Relic and you can just pick it up.

	13-01-2004 01:24									#226
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The AI doesn't move it's king units, they just sit in the cities they start with.

I assumed you could raze AI cities - not that I was planning a cross-Channel invasion by curragh.

I am not sure you should be allowed to kill any AI king units. That would keep the AI's in the game (it would also keep the English relic out of play ). Certainly you must leave 1 alive to avoid eliminating the AI civ.

Do we have a majority view on this (if not a consensus)?

	13-01-2004 01:48									#227
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Watch it! I have a mass Dromon/Swordsmen invasion fleet enroute to Britainia since the beginning of the game to claim the Holy Grail. I'll be darned if they turn back now, they've just reached Corsica.

(Darn, it sure takes a long time to travel by boat in this game.)

	15-01-2004 22:26									#228
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	15-01-2004 23:42									#229
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	16-01-2004 01:32									#230
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More Danes to the slaughter.

	16-01-2004 09:14									#231
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I love the Danes , please don't hurt me

	17-01-2004 15:43									#232
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	20-01-2004 19:37									#233
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	21-01-2004 00:57									#235
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Updated Player List
Abbasids (Jerusalem) - Anatolia
Germans - Sir Ralph
Rus (Russia)- Computer
Byzantines - GhengisFarb
Franks - CerberusIV
English - Computer
Danes - SirOsis
Corovans - lmtoops

Barbarian Camps - Uber Krux

Last edited by GhengisFarb on 21-01-2004 at 04:06

	21-01-2004 02:13									#236
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A turn without battle with the Franks? Most surprising.

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	24-01-2004 06:57									#237
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For some reason I'm not getting a lot of saves at my Kornet address. Please send saves to masuro33 at Hotmail.
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	24-01-2004 12:28									#238
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	24-01-2004 18:56									#239
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quote: Originally posted by Masuro For some reason I'm not getting a lot of saves at my Kornet address. Please send saves to masuro33 at Hotmail. Turn sent

Thats what happens when you sign up for an email account with Korn-nuts.

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	24-01-2004 19:34									#240
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