07-10-2003 22:53									#31
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2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0
9. Bf4 Be6
10. Bd2 Qb6
11. Bc1 Bf6
12. Nf3 c5
13 Bd5 Bd5
14 dc

quote: Originally posted by ljcvetko Yes, I supposed you were still busy moving. By the way Michael, how did you become moderator?

A bit of a long story - Ming and MarkG decided they needed another body to deal with the rowdies of the Off Topic forum, so they launched and April Fool's "joke" where I was supposed to be a pretend moderator and use my "special charm" (like that of a Drill Instructor in the army ) to intimidate the masses. It worked, and part of the "joke" was to sucker me into a job I wouldn't have taken in the first place. (One of the unwritten rules here seems to be that anyone who seeks to be a moderator is disqualified ).

The effect worked well, because Ming suddenly became the nice, "reasonable" guy. Moderating GalCiv and MOO came along because I play those games so I check the forums at least occassionally anyway. Ming plays Civ II and III MP, so he's busy in those forums, but I don't play those games, and he doesn't play GalCiv or MOO that I've heard, so it just turned out to be a convenient division of labor.

	08-10-2003 11:10									#32
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Ming reasonable guy?
I wonder what you did in this first month of yours to make Ming appear reasonable

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3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0
9. Bf4 Be6
10. Bd2 Qb6
11. Bc1 Bf6
12. Nf3 c5
13 Bd5 Bd5
14 dc Qc5

You play MOO and GalCiv then. I played MOO1 and think it is the best game ever. I play it still sometimes.

But I primarily like turn based multiplayer games like chess and civ2. Strange you don't like civ2, being so chess like.

	08-10-2003 21:11									#33
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0
9. Bf4 Be6
10. Bd2 Qb6
11. Bc1 Bf6
12. Nf3 c5
13 Bd5 Bd5
14 dc Qc5+
15 Kh1

quote: Originally posted by ljcvetko Ming reasonable guy? I wonder what you did in this first month of yours to make Ming appear reasonable You play MOO and GalCiv then. I played MOO1 and think it is the best game ever. I play it still sometimes. But I primarily like turn based multiplayer games like chess and civ2. Strange you don't like civ2, being so chess like.

Ming tends to do things like warn people. I figure they already know they're out of line.

I like Civ II, but I was through playing it (and never got into it MP) before I came to this site. I did play SMAC PBEM's a lot, but then got too busy to keep up with them when my son was born.

I loved MOO1 and the original Civ - when I first got Civ, a couple of days after it came out, I stayed up over 60 hours straight playing it.

I've always been a turn based player - from chess to Napoleonic miniatures (a guy I knew in Silicon Valley had his entire garage converted to a sand table, assembleable terrain features and storage for miniatures so you could play full army scale maps with 10-12 guys as the Army commander and Corps commanders. ) The only RTS game I liked well enough to keep around are Sid Meier's Gettysburg (even though it has a lot of flaws) and the original AoE.

	08-10-2003 23:39									#34
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I have never seen you banning anybody.
On the other hand, Ming has banned many.
And many times he tends to do it impulsively.
And if banned people are too proud, they never apologise and may never return too.
I am not claiming Ming's banning people arbitrarily. Just that he's way too harsh sometimes.

1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0
9. Bf4 Be6
10. Bd2 Qb6
11. Bc1 Bf6
12. Nf3 c5
13. Bd5 Bd5
14. dc Qc5+
15. Kh1 Rd8

Pictures are not working so we can't post the position right now. We'll do it when DanQ fixes things.

The things I liked the most (and I still do) in MOO1 are the enormous tech tree, the fact that not all techs are available to your research (great idea!) and the smart AI. The AI is actually far smarter than the AI of some later games (civ2 for instance where the AI is simply a punching bag).

And the voting, and losing the vote and going for the final war.

	09-10-2003 01:29									#35
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0
9. Bf4 Be6
10. Bd2 Qb6
11. Bc1 Bf6
12. Nf3 c5
13. Bd5 Bd5
14. dc Qc5+
15. Kh1 Rd8
16. Nbd2

quote: Originally posted by ljcvetko I have never seen you banning anybody. On the other hand, Ming has banned many. And many times he tends to do it impulsively. And if banned people are too proud, they never apologise and may never return too. I am not claiming Ming's banning people arbitrarily. Just that he's way too harsh sometimes.

Ming usually makes it visible. I ban people by stealth most of the time, or just with a little sign off line like "see you next week" More like a sniper, whearas Ming has to do it like an armor puke in his Abrams tank.



The things I liked the most (and I still do) in MOO1 are the enormous tech tree, the fact that not all techs are available to your research (great idea!) and the smart AI. The AI is actually far smarter than the AI of some later games (civ2 for instance where the AI is simply a punching bag).

And the voting, and losing the vote and going for the final war. [/QUOTE]

Yeah, both fun. And the MOO1 AI was much better than most games, although I got annoyed at those bogus fleets of 32000 little ships. Although black-holing them was fun.

	09-10-2003 04:08									#36
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0
9. Bf4 Be6
10. Bd2 Qb6
11. Bc1 Bf6
12. Nf3 c5
13. Bd5 Bd5
14. dc Qc5+
15. Kh1 Rd8
16. Nbd2 Nc6

Did you play MOO2 Michael? I did, but I can't find my CD any more

Do you know where I could find one?
What do you think about MOO2?

	18-10-2003 18:43									#37
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Michael, you have forgotten our game.

Let me refresh your memory with a nice screenshot

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	20-10-2003 22:42									#38
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Sorry, I've been babble posting in OT on occasion, but finishing up with moving and now moving my office has made me braindead. :tired:

I played Moo2 a lot - I liked it less than the original (I've never seen a sequel that's had the same impact for me as the original game), but more than Moo3, which I just found tedious after a while (I hate the stupidity of AI governors, and I can't help but micromanage ).

I have a Moo2 CD, around, but not the original MOO and I've seen it Moo2 advertised in bargain bins and such not too long ago.

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2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0
9. Bf4 Be6
10. Bd2 Qb6
11. Bc1 Bf6
12. Nf3 c5
13. Bd5 Bd5
14. dc Qc5+
15. Kh1 Rd8
16. Nbd2 Nc6
17. c3

	20-10-2003 23:36									#39
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0
9. Bf4 Be6
10. Bd2 Qb6
11. Bc1 Bf6
12. Nf3 c5
13. Bd5 Bd5
14. dc Qc5+
15. Kh1 Rd8
16. Nbd2 Nc6
17. c3 Re8

What I liked the most was customisation of the races, a feature not present in MOO1 and more advanced diplomatic options and, of course, multiplayer, although I never had the opportunity to try it.

The leaders were a novel idea , although I didn't like the fact them being limited to 4 only (if I remember correctly).

The thing I hated the most was the endless build queue in zillions of my colonies. Tedious micromanagement compared to MOO1.

	03-11-2003 22:23									#40
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Congratulations Michael on your promotion to SUPER MODERATOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!