28-09-2003 00:14									#1
	Poly chess ch. group 1 MtG - ljcvetko Put an end to popups!

If you're too busy to keep track of this many games (since you've got a lot going by replacing zorbop), then you can let this one trail behind. I figured I'd at least get the thread started.

1. e4

	28-09-2003 05:14									#2
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Not at all, I'll enjoy a game with you.

1. e4 e5

Going against grandmaster Tarrasch's advice.

	28-09-2003 05:58									#3
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1. e4 e5
2. f4


Going against a lot of people's advice, but I was always too lazy to get into all the variations of the Ruy Lopez, so King's Gambit was my opening of choice against 1. ... e5.

	28-09-2003 06:21									#4
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I don't know why I played 1... e5.
I wanted to play 1... d5.

It's never too late though

1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5

Dr. Tarrasch wouldn't have been pleased.

	28-09-2003 06:23									#5
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. exd5


No, he wouldn't.

	28-09-2003 06:34									#6
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Playing only pawns

It's contrary to former champion Alekhin's theories of centre control by means other than pawns.

Ah well, what the hell, it's pawn dance right now.

1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. exd5 exf4

(It's not necessary to emphasise with an x symbol that a piece was captured. Nevertheless, I respect your stile of notation and we may continue this way.)

By the way, what's the English name for pieces other than pawns (i.e. a common name for queens, rooks, bishops and knights)?

	28-09-2003 06:41									#7
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I normally do the short form algebraic because I was addicted to ECO (oh for the days of ECO updates and the Yugoslav Chess Federation) and Shakhmatny Byuletin, but I noticed more people here using the longer "x" version.

Pieces other than pawns are generically referred to just as "pieces"

1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3

I'm more used to this short notation by far.

	29-09-2003 06:29									#8
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6

Yeah, you know I'm from Belgrade, capital of former Yugoslavia.

You are saying ECO is not being updated today?
Believe me it is.
You can order a CD with complete set of ECO together with all volumes of Chess Informant save the last two for a few hundred dollars.

Tell me if you need a link or something

	29-09-2003 07:33									#9
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I haven't seen anything more recent than the last five volume printed set from about 1984.

If you've got a link, I'd

	29-09-2003 07:36									#10
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4

	29-09-2003 12:01									#11
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Here's the link.

Chess Informant Web Site

1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5

Do you live in New York, Michael?
And don't tell me your real name is Johnny Reb

Last edited by Ljube on 29-09-2003 at 17:05

	30-09-2003 05:41									#12
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No, I live in Tijuana, Mexico, but work in San Diego, California.

The name reflects my regional political sympathies, rather than my birth certificate.

The avatar was for the second anniversary of the 9-11 attack. I decided to keep it for the rest of September, so Wednesday I'll have something new.

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	30-09-2003 05:49									#13
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4


I'm going to have limited internet access the rest of this week, since I'm in the middle of moving. I'll be online work hours only. Sorry.

	01-10-2003 14:55									#14
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No problemo Mike, as you can see, I'm not exactly regular either.

1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7

Wow! Cashing American currency and spending on chiquitas in sunny Tijuana

That's my dream life!

	02-10-2003 04:48									#15
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0

quote: Originally posted by ljcvetko Wow! Cashing American currency and spending on chiquitas in sunny Tijuana That's my dream life!

Well, the only chiquita I get to spend money on is my daughter, but that's ok. Next I'll be at is my son's 3rd birthday. New toys!

	02-10-2003 13:37									#16
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6

So Michael, you seem to have more years than I have anticipated. I too have 1984 edition of ECO, but I'm a 29 years old single.

Maybe you got married young

	03-10-2003 09:48									#17
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5

quote: Originally posted by ljcvetko So Michael, you seem to have more years than I have anticipated. I too have 1984 edition of ECO, but I'm a 29 years old single. Maybe you got married young

I'm almost 44, so getting to be an old fart. My last tournament playing days were literally half a lifetime ago.

	03-10-2003 11:37									#18
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0

44 years old and still developing software?

That's like playing chess competitively at 64.
(Well, Korchnoi did it, why can't we?)

I quit programming two years ago (thought I was getting to old to compete with all them young punks).

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	03-10-2003 12:01									#19
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0
9. Bf4

quote: Originally posted by ljcvetko 44 years old and still developing software? That's like playing chess competitively at 64. (Well, Korchnoi did it, why can't we?) I quit programming two years ago (thought I was getting to old to compete with all them young punks).

Old age and treachery always overcome youth and skill.

Actually, the young punks know a lot of mostly arcane crap about the latest thing, but the vast majority of them don't know crap about architecture, design, or project management. I figure I can hire code weenies any time. It's the real work that takes talent.

	04-10-2003 02:37									#20
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0
9. Bf4 Be6

My kind of philosophy, Michael.

So, am I to understand you are project manager?

I'm too young for such a position. Still, I'm satisfied with the one I have (IT Analyst in the project of computerisation of Serbian Judicial System).

	04-10-2003 03:05									#21
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0
9. Bf4 Be6
10. Bd2

quote: Originally posted by ljcvetko My kind of philosophy, Michael. So, am I to understand you are project manager? I'm too young for such a position. Still, I'm satisfied with the one I have (IT Analyst in the project of computerisation of Serbian Judicial System).

I started my own company a couple of years ago to do industrial software products, so I'm sort of everything. Sounds like you have a pretty decent position.

	04-10-2003 03:37									#22
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0
9. Bf4 Be6
10. Bd2 Qb6

I plan to start my own company one day. I have a couple of friends that share the same dream, so we'll probably be partners.

And yes, it's good to know a judge or two.

	04-10-2003 05:15									#23
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0
9. Bf4 Be6
10. Bd2 Qb6
11. Bc1

OK, be that way.

quote: Originally posted by ljcvetko I plan to start my own company one day. I have a couple of friends that share the same dream, so we'll probably be partners. And yes, it's good to know a judge or two.

Partners are a very interesting thing, especially when friends. When you get to that point, make sure everyone understands exactly what their roles are, and make sure you document the hell out of everything you do. People always seem to have a tendency to remember all those early discussions differently.

	05-10-2003 15:01									#24
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0
9. Bf4 Be6
10. Bd2 Qb6
11. Bc1 Bf6

I have to try this one out.
I haven't analysed all variations.

Why haven't you moved to US?
Not that I think you should, but just wondering.

	06-10-2003 23:14									#25
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0
9. Bf4 Be6
10. Bd2 Qb6
11. Bc1 Bf6
12. Nf3

quote: Originally posted by ljcvetko I have to try this one out. I haven't analysed all variations. Why haven't you moved to US? Not that I think you should, but just wondering.

All the fun variations seem to have white a move behind.

I actually moved from the US four and a half years ago - things are a lot more relaxed here in Mexico, and the housing costs and state and local taxes in southern California are insane.

	07-10-2003 03:58									#26
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0
9. Bf4 Be6
10. Bd2 Qb6
11. Bc1 Bf6
12. Nf3 c5

I certainly seam to be gaining momentum here.

Michael, did you see my post in our initial thread?
Do we contact the others to set up the second group?

	07-10-2003 05:44									#27
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0
9. Bf4 Be6
10. Bd2 Qb6
11. Bc1 Bf6
12. Nf3 c5
13 Bd5

quote: Originally posted by ljcvetko I certainly seam to be gaining momentum here. Michael, did you see my post in our initial thread? Do we contact the others to set up the second group?

I didn't see that post - I've been off and on all day, between moving my aquarium from my old house to my new one. :tongue dragging:

Damn, that's was a lot of weight to get up the stairs.

I'll look at the thread in a little bit, and set up the second group and let everyone know.

	07-10-2003 11:09									#28
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1. e4 e5
2. f4 d5
3. ed ef
4. Nf3 Nf6
5. d4 Nd5
6. Bc4 Be7
7. 0-0 c6
8. Ne5 0-0
9. Bf4 Be6
10. Bd2 Qb6
11. Bc1 Bf6
12. Nf3 c5
13 Bd5 Bd5

Yes, I supposed you were still busy moving.

By the way Michael, how did you become moderator?

	07-10-2003 19:24									#29
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Damn, that's was a lot of weight to get up the stairs.

Do you have considered to pour out the water first?

	07-10-2003 22:26									#30
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Most of it, anyway. I didn't want to shock the fish by netting them to a holding tank, moving that, then setting up a new water regime in the existing tank and tossing them back in - most of these fish are around 3-4 years old, and all oversized, reference book examples of their species, so I wanted to disturb their environment the least possible.

They got moved in tank with about 20% of their water, while I saved most of the rest in separate containers, but even with 80% of the water and all the filter and related stuff gone, it was about 60-70 kg load.

Good news is they're all alive and showing no signs of stress this morning - and I think I even have all my vertebrae.