30-09-2003 05:31									#1
	Explain Datajack what's the big deal about processors Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Please. I need a computer and I don't understand the differences between AMD and Intel processors, what do they do, which one is better, which one makes popcorns with bee vomit and all that stuff. And explain your reasons of course.

This thread already makes me feel mentally challenged so be nice like the happy stuffed animals you can see in all those nice taxidermist shops in England

That's all! Nerds all over the world unite and help Datajack!

	30-09-2003 05:58									#2
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Intel = Coke
AMD = Pepsi

	30-09-2003 06:24									#3
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Athlon is usually priced lower.

	30-09-2003 06:27									#4
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Yep, that's a good sumation Skanky.

If you want the original go for Intel.

If you want a knock-off (and any extra baggage which might come with it), then save a few dollars and go with AMD.

Of course, this advice is coming from a Coca-Cola drinker. Pepsi is just nasty (makes a lousy mixer)...but that's a different poll.

	30-09-2003 06:32									#5
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Of course, both my computers are AMD. Best performance to cost ratio IMO. Still, Intel are nice, but not for poor uni students.

	30-09-2003 07:28									#6
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pepsi sucks ass.

But I won't say AMD sucks ass. They do pretty good performance wise. But I've heard Intel has some special features to improve speed. but if the programmers don't utilize these, then they really aren't gaining any speed.

But I've had no problems with Intel, I have no reason to change.

	30-09-2003 07:29									#7
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another processor worth thinking about is commodore

	30-09-2003 07:43									#8
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intels are better right now (they usually benchmark higher), but they do cost a lot more.

if you're buying 1.5+ ghz, and doing standard stuff, you probably won't notice the difference in speed, so save yourself the money if you want to.

	30-09-2003 08:21									#9
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I think Pepsi has a much better, and smoother taste than Coke.

	30-09-2003 08:49									#10
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How about, say, an eight-way Alpha EV8?

	30-09-2003 15:13									#11
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Considering I actually own a Pentium 700 everything above 1000 is a big improvement

	30-09-2003 17:55									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Intel = Coke AMD = Pepsi

You've said it

Intel all the way

	30-09-2003 18:56									#13
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AMDs run hotter than Intels. too, unless AMD fixed this recently.

	30-09-2003 19:10									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Ari Rahikkala How about, say, an eight-way Alpha EV8?

Where? Where?

* Urban Ranger froths at the mouth.

Wait a minute. Just one, or all 8?

	30-09-2003 19:11									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Harry Seldon AMDs run hotter than Intels. too, unless AMD fixed this recently.

What? No. AMD chips don't use more power than Intel chips.

	30-09-2003 19:15									#16
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My P4 2.40c GHz runs at 33șC now; I've never seen an AMD run under 45șC before.

	30-09-2003 19:59									#17
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quote: What? No. AMD chips don't use more power than Intel chips.

Not more power, just a larger amount of heat coming from the chip. More sinks, more fans, more trouble in the long run.

	30-09-2003 20:35									#18
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amds: they use less power, but give off more heat.

in any case, i've never had trouble with either.

buy what's best, price-performance wise.

	30-09-2003 20:45									#19
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Yea, take into account that you'll also need a new motherboard and a new set of RAM.
Look for the best value for your demands and wishes.

I bought an Intel processor together with an Intel motherboard, because I wanted top quality and top compatibility. The warranty isn't bad either: three years on the motherboard is very good compared to other manufacturers.

	30-09-2003 21:04									#20
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Newer AMD chips don't run as hot as previous models (my AMD 1000 regularly went over 60 C - in winter) but my newer one doesn't go that high. 40 C currently.

	30-09-2003 21:08									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Zopperoni three years on the motherboard is very good compared to other manufacturers.

The motherboard on my old computer broke down just after the 3-year anniversary and yes, I had three years warranty too.

	30-09-2003 21:18									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Zopperoni I've never seen an AMD run under 45șC before.

Mine's at 41șC currently

But it's true, I've seen AMDs run at 70șC or more...

	30-09-2003 21:19									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Newer AMD chips don't run as hot as previous models (my AMD 1000 regularly went over 60 C - in winter) but my newer one doesn't go that high. 40 C currently.

Really?

Did you use any special cooling solutions to get there, because friends of mine can't seem to get their systems to run at such a low temperature (45șC as the lowest)?

quote: Originally posted by Combat Ingrid The motherboard on my old computer broke down just after the 3-year anniversary and yes, I had three years warranty too.

Hm, that sucks. I upgrade every three years, so this was a good deal for me.

	30-09-2003 21:23									#24
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Crosspost

Can't speak for Skanky, but I don't use any kind of special cooling. Your friends must indeed be using either older models, or cheaper ones

	30-09-2003 21:54									#25
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How do I check the processor temperature?

	30-09-2003 22:09									#26
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It's usually in the BIOS under 'Health Status' or 'Hardware Monitor' or something similar (and at least some mobo manufacturors have software tools that work under Windows as well).

	30-09-2003 22:37									#27
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I use AIDA 32.