02-10-2003 01:02									#1
	mac ptw? Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

I saw on the apolyton site that civiii.com was recently updated. I went to see if there was anything to do with mac ptw (i consider civiii tremendously annoying without proper civ placement and some of the civs that are missing) and waaay down on the bottom where it used to say ::mac coming soon:: it doesn't say that anymore. it was supposed to be out in time for christmas 2003, last I heard. have they just given up?

This is infuriating.

You know, if they only came out with an patch that allows you to define proper civ placement with the ordinary civiii editor i'd be able to put in the couple extra civs I want and be much happier.

Are they still developing ptw? and when is it supposedt to be out?

	02-10-2003 01:40									#2
	Re: mac ptw? Support Apolyton

quote: Originally posted by Antaine Are they still developing ptw? and when is it supposedt to be out?

They never began developing PTW for Mac. When the Civ3.com site wrote "coming soon," Inforgrames (Civ3 publisher) still owned MacSoft which publishes the mac version. However, MacSoft had just been sold so any plans that were considered by Infogrames are null & void. The current owner of MacSoft Games (Peter Tamte) is currently not considering a PTW port for mac. And, now that Conquests is on its way, probably never will. The only way we'll see PTW is if Conquests gets ported, and would only happen if Conquests PC sales are very good.

	02-10-2003 02:28									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

There has to be something we can do as mac users to improve the situation. Software companies' attitude towards us is like oil companies saying, "since many more vehicles use unleaded gasoline than diesel, we're going to stop making diesel fuel."

apple could make a small fortune by buying rights to make mac ports of the most popular software themselves when developers are unwilling to do it.

Would it be possible for an independent person to develop a patch or utility that would allow for proper civ placement at least? They had them for pcs long before ptw, why not mac?



okay... as I'm typing I called Destineer. They said they couldn't release any information about prospective products or not, which I understand as they probably want to take a little time to assess what they're going to do with macsoft.

They are, however, taking comments from those that call in. I think our best bet is to call them through the numbers on macsoftgames.com (763-231-8100 - I think it's option 4, the one for corporate offices). They took over a mac software co looking to sell software to mac users. Let's let them know that if it was out there mac users would buy it. Maybe that's the answer to my opening comments...

	02-10-2003 04:46									#4
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

There is something you can do. Buy EU2 which is far better than Civ III and is made by a company which bothers about mac users.

	02-10-2003 04:53									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Agathon There is something you can do. Buy EU2 which is far better than Civ III and is made by a company which bothers about mac users.

True, and HOI (Hearts of Iron) began shipping today. You can pick it up also through MacPlay.

	02-10-2003 13:03									#6
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

What's Hearts of Iron all about?

	02-10-2003 20:53									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Gatekeeper What's Hearts of Iron all about?

HoI Forum

HoI Page

	02-10-2003 22:58									#8
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quote: Originally posted by dojoboy True, and HOI (Hearts of Iron) began shipping today. You can pick it up also through MacPlay.

Oh man...

	03-10-2003 14:19									#9
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

When's HOI released in Japan? And will I be able to understand it?

	03-10-2003 14:34									#10
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten When's HOI released in Japan? And will I be able to understand it?

I'm not sure who is distributing it in East Asia, but I'll look into it. Do oyu mean understand it in reagrds of learning to play it? It is a different game than Civ3, and, in many ways, it has a higher learning curve than Civ3. But, it is a WWII RTS game that plays like a TBS. And, the system specs are low:

Requirements
iMacs (revision B or later
G3/G4 (blue and white desktops or later)
Any machine in OSX
MacOS 9.0 or later
333 MHz or faster
128MB Memory
DrawSprocket 1.7.6 or later
InputSprocket 1.7.3 or later
QuickTime 4.0 or later

	03-10-2003 14:53									#11
	Support Apolyton

quote: Do oyu mean understand it in reagrds of learning to play it?

No, I mean understanding it in regards to being able to read the text. ****ing kanji...

	03-10-2003 23:58									#12
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Big deal... looks like it's stuck in just the WWII period, right?

	04-10-2003 00:00									#13
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Heck, I'd be happy with C3C. Doesn't it have PtW in it?

	04-10-2003 02:40									#14
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

I'm going to wait until it turns up at the mac store (yes there is a mac store a block and a half from my house. ).

I need to get some work done.

	06-10-2003 06:05									#15
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This is just a response I got from e-mailing MacSoft TechSupport inquiring about PtW or Conquests.

quote: Hi, We have no current plans to bring "Play the World" or "Conquests" to the Mac. Essentially, the PC version of Play the World makes cross-platform multiplayer gaming virtually impossible to implement. I don't know if someone else might be porting these for the Mac, but we have never had this in our plans. Sincerely, Greg Grimes MacSoft Technical Support

	06-10-2003 07:37									#16
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quote: Originally posted by FlameFlash This is just a response I got from e-mailing MacSoft TechSupport inquiring about PtW or Conquests.

Not criticizing Greg Grimes here, but the tech department usually isn't where the porting decisions are made, but i guess it would have some input. I copied the his reply in an email to Virtual Programming's Paul Lesurf. They did EU2 and HoI and may be interested in porting Conquests. If Atari owns the rights, which they should, then maybe VP can make a deal.

	08-10-2003 05:15									#17
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That'd be nice.

I do think that somebody in the tech department would know what was being ported just so that they'd also know how to support it after release...