02-10-2003 17:09									#1
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Hi my fellow Civ2 community,

I have to annouce a very, very sad fact: Due to software problems with my OS (Windows XP) I have lost not only all my programs but also all my data. Therefore I have to quit working on the following projects The World Today Update, Hammer of the East, Operation Market Garden, Unternehmen Barbarossa as all my data is lost. I am very sorry to tell you these facts but I will be back - hopefully with even more sophisticated scenarios, graphics and Civ2 stuff then before!

I hope you understand my rfeasons for quitting that projects but the loss of the data leaves me no other option. I am very sorry, especially for the Market Garden scenario as this would have become some kind of masterpiece. Again, I am sorry but do not forget: I WILL BE BACK. Back again.

	02-10-2003 17:31									#2
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Wow, that sucks Jim

As a brand new XP user, I'd be very interested to hear what went wrong so that I can avoid this happening to me.

	02-10-2003 17:32									#3
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quote: have to annouce a very, very sad fact: Due to software problems with my OS (Windows XP) I have lost not only all my programs but also all my data. Therefore I have to quit working on the following projects The World Today Update, Hammer of the East, Operation Market Garden, Unternehmen Barbarossa as all my data is lost. I am very sorry to tell you these facts but I will be back - hopefully with even more sophisticated scenarios, graphics and Civ2 stuff then before!

My sincere condolences Jim
I had to abandon two scenarios as a result of hard disk formatting, so I know what does it mean. But I'm sure a Scenario Creation-addict like you will create even better scenarios

	02-10-2003 17:38									#4
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Condolences... no backup, no co-project-workers?

	02-10-2003 18:23									#5
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Bad luck, man. This problem happens to me quite regularly. If you have a CD writer, you can try burning a back-up CD every two or so months just to be safe. That's what I do.

	02-10-2003 18:41									#6
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Or you can do that funny raid thing with one disc being the mirror for all others...

	02-10-2003 19:29									#7
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Sh_it happens....

	02-10-2003 20:06									#8
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My sympathies...

There is nothing more to make a man more sad, than data loss...

I urge everyone to back up all project files...TODAY!

	02-10-2003 20:08									#9
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That's bad Jim. I was really looking forward to Operation Market Garden.

But if it's any consolation, there's no shortage of designers in the SLeague who have suffered the same fate. People that design scenarios have far more unstable computers than average.

Maybe we should start a "why does Microsoft makes such shoddy projects" anonymous group.

	02-10-2003 21:20									#10
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quote: Originally posted by our_man Maybe we should start a "why does Microsoft makes such shoddy projects" anonymous group.

I think it exists...It's called Linux!

	02-10-2003 21:30									#11
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quote: Originally posted by curtsibling I think it exists...It's called Linux!

Yay! And its Finnish!

	02-10-2003 21:31									#12
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Shyte. I was really looking forward to some of those scens.

	03-10-2003 00:43									#13
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Does Civ2 run under Linux?

	03-10-2003 03:23									#14
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Are you sure you can't rescue your data?!

Data can be hardly wiped out from the disk, they are usually inaccessible only (using standard methods), but they still stay on the disk (until they are rewritten by another data).

So try not to use the disk now (so that you don't rewrite your old data) and to save the data (using some tool that ignores the file system and reads the disk directly - like diskedit.exe of Norton utilities). And try to make a complete copy (an 'image') of the disk first!

	03-10-2003 13:36									#15
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Man, I thought someone had died! Tragic stuff nonetheless.

With all the hours that are put into scenario design, you should backup your work. Certainly, always backup before upgrading an OS.

As SlowThinker, said, all may not be lost if you have a utility, such as Norton's, which can recover lost data. The more you use the disk, however, the greater the likelihood of overwriting your old data.

BTW, what happened? Did the XP registry crap itself? This periodically happens to me in XP via dodgy drivers (even signed ones it seems), but I replace the corrupt registry files with older ones from System Restore.

	03-10-2003 17:09									#16
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quote: Originally posted by our_man But if it's any consolation, there's no shortage of designers in the SLeague who have suffered the same fate. People that design scenarios have far more unstable computers than average.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Apolyton and CFC should set up a fund to buy new computers for their members

	03-10-2003 18:08									#17
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I'm very sorry Jim .


I hope you survive this sad moment in your life .

	03-10-2003 21:19									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Catfish With all the hours that are put into scenario design, you should backup your work. Certainly, always backup before upgrading an OS.

quote: Originally posted by Case I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Apolyton and CFC should set up a fund to buy new computers for their members

I don't think it is about oldness of a computer. In fact the most faulty comp is a new one - first month of work of a computer stands for a testing period.
Not to make periodical backups is a crime . Not everybody is caught, but punishment is usually very severe.

	03-10-2003 21:28									#19
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I once read an adage about comments and computer code. It's like religion - everyone says it should be done, everyone says one way is the best, and very few actually do what they profess. I suspect the same is true about backups. I just realized my only off-site backup of El Aurens is several versions old.

	04-10-2003 15:14									#20
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Civ2 doesn't run under Linux now does it?

	05-10-2003 05:27									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Boco It's like religion - everyone says it should be done, everyone says one way is the best, and very few actually do what they profess. I suspect the same is true about backups.

Not a truer word spoken. Only this morning I suffered from the same type of device driver problem that I mentioned earlier - the first time since early in the year. Of all the thousands of files that exist on my HD, ten or so were corrupted - and guess what - three were Civ2 bmps with units I'd made during the last couple of weeks. No backup during this time. Aarrgh! Fortunately I posted some in the Showcase forums - so I do in fact have a few backed up here at Apolyton.

	05-10-2003 14:38									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Ecthelion Civ2 doesn't run under Linux now does it?

Actually it does, but you need to run it through WINE ( sort of an 'emulator' you can use to run windows app under Linux) to run it.


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