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Octavian X
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Probably buried under piles of Literature, Biology, or Government homework
Jan 2002 time: 23:31
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Note: This is an ACPSG organization, most comprable to a political party.
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Even though the Unity has not landed, important followers of Sheng-Ji Yang have begun to form their own bloc of members of The Party, with it's own ideals. The recent delcaration of the Avestite Manifesto has, though, catapulted some into the formation of their own organization.
This organization, the Comission for Worker Unity, has centered it's ideals around the central idea that all glourious workers of Planet should be united under one great banner, for the advancement of humankind.
Their ideals:
~ Unity amongst all oppressed workers of the other factions of Planet, whether it be by peaceful unification, or forced freedom from oppressive regimes.
~ Complete freedom for the working class, united under the glourious Hiverian government. This includes allowing the workers to have whatever freedoms they chose, even if it means partial democracy, or state-sponsered (and controlled) religion.
~ Planet shall be a worker's Utopia, and as such all it's resources should be exploited to achieve this goal. They should only be maintained to such a point to ensure that they are available for the use of future generations.
~ War places the great workers of the Hive at great risk. It should be used only as a last resort in the glourious campaign for supreme unity among workers.
~ While the individual is entitled to his own rights, the needs and expectations of the group as a whole are transendant to the will of the one. Alone, a man can accomplish little. With others, a man can work miracles.
~ Devoution to the goals of Comrade Marx. We aim to, one day, become the Utopia that Marx imagined oh so long ago.
Freedom from oppression! Glory to the workers, and their Hive!
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Drogue
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Omnipresent conscience
Oct 2002 time: 05:31
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quote: Originally posted by Octavian X
~ Complete freedom for the working class |
Freedom The working class need to understand that subservance to those in charge is in their best interest. The Glory of the Hive is far more important than any silly notion of 'freedom'. Are you sure you have mistake the Great Hive Council for the United Nations Government?
quote: Originally posted by Octavian X
This includes allowing the workers to have whatever freedoms they chose, even if it means partial democracy, or state-sponsered (and controlled) religion. |
Comrade Octavian, are you aware of what you are proposing? A candidate for General Secretary espousing democracy Perhaps a visit from Inspector Comrade Hercules is needed? 
quote: Originally posted by Octavian X
~ War places the great workers of the Hive at great risk. It should be used only as a last resort in the glourious campaign for supreme unity among workers. |
War is necessary to unite all factions under the Glory of the Hive. Force is the only way to bring about the total and unconditional capitulation of all others to the Glorious Chairman and leadership of our great faction. Moreover, it provides jobs, both as soldiers and workers, for those who are in need of employment. Yet you claim war damages the workers? Look to the long term, the liberation of all other factions in the name of our Glorious Chairman is more important than the short term conditions of those who fight for us.
quote: Originally posted by Octavian X
~ While the individual is entitled to his own rights, the needs and expectations of the group as a whole are transendant to the will of the one. Alone, a man can accomplish little. With others, a man can work miracles. |
Finally the Comrade comes to his sense 
quote: Originally posted by Octavian X
Freedom from oppression! Glory to the workers, and their Hive! |
Glory to the Hive, Glory to the Chairman - All other objectives take away from the need of the Hive.
Edit: Obviously all in character... See my upcoming thread in my party I mean no disrespect to Comrade Octavian 
Last edited by Drogue on 03-10-2003 at 19:19
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Drogue
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Omnipresent conscience
Oct 2002 time: 05:31
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quote: Originally posted by Voltaire
Comrade Drogue you threat on dangerous ground, your words ring closer to statism than to the true ideals of communism. |
Comrade Voltaire, you do realise that the natural ideal of the party is Police State and not Planned. Therefore espousing the silly notion of 'freedom' and even 'democracy' goes against our factional ethos far more than if I were to espouse the notion of a free market. Label what I say as what you will, but we are a Police State, not a workers paradise. We are the Hive no the Drones. Therefore our goal should be the Glory of the Hive, as a whole, rather than the workforce. And as Comrade Inspector Hercules has said, our Glorious Chairman/Secretary should be praised at every opportunity.
We are a Police State ideal, not necessarily Communist, although that seems to fit better with the Police State.
OOC: Where does this notion of the Hive being Communist above all else come from? The game is quite clear that it is a Police State ideal, opposed to democracy (thus not being able to choose it), and mentions little of an economic system. Subordination of the masses is what the Hive is, especially when there is another faction, the Drones, who are there to be a workers paradise. /OOC
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Octavian X
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Probably buried under piles of Literature, Biology, or Government homework
Jan 2002 time: 23:31
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OOC: I've always thought that our communist ideals were a front for our brutal oppresion of the masses. 
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Comrade Drogue, surely you are not disputing that the glourious goal of the Hive is the formation of a perfect communist society? Our goal, one day, is to do away with this useless organization known as 'government' so that we may all live in a communal society. From each, according to his abilities! To each, according to his needs!
It is our great campaign to create a perfect world, where each may live according to his will! Granted, some exetreme measures are needed today. However, this is all toward building a society, one where all may live in peace.
We are to not to opress a man, forcing him to risk his life in battle. All, if allowed to live the natural course of their lives, will be more valuable to the collective , functioning to help all of society into their old age.
Above all, the rights of the individual are to be respected. Though he is subordinate to transecendant goals of the group, he is entitiled to his own attempts to find happiness, and the have a voice in deciding the goals of all.
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Comrade Tassadar
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Comrade Voltaire is correct. Capitalism is dictatorialism, and capitalism infested the communist regiemes of the past.
We must never let capitalism enter our society. The peoples shall tolerate these counter-revolutionary comments for now, but re-educate yourself lest the people re-educate you.
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