05-10-2003 14:34									#1
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If we come in a situation where emergency funding is needed to finance a bribing attempt, should the president be allowed to sell certain improvements, and if yes, which?

	05-10-2003 16:12									#2
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Hmm, tricky poll, and hard decision to make.

What is our gold per turn income? Can we do without a few costly Banks and Markets and instead just replace them with maintenance-free and gold-earning Cathedrals and Colossea? If we can, then I say these go first. Otherwise Libraries and Universities, as these seem to be largely useless in Fundy unless we are still Xinning (are we?)

	05-10-2003 16:28									#3
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Total income 420, total cost 96, net income 324.
Pathetic really, but if we follow my building plan, we should get to 1000+ net gold per turn in no time.

	05-10-2003 16:46									#4
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we aren't Xinning anymore.

atm we have >300G profit/turn if we have a gold shortage that could be solved with selling 1 or 2 or even 3 buildings we should just wait 1 turn. the costs to get those things back is way to high.

Selling Libraries and Universities then we really return to the stoneage, it now already takes 40 turns to get to a new tech...(because the sciencerate is at 20%=> so ofcourse those buildings look inefficient)

Shade

	05-10-2003 17:53									#5
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Selling markets and banks will make celebrations in Fundy harder, if not impossible. Also, their absence will rule out a switch to Republic or Demo (unlikely, I know, but some may still harbour dreams of a representative government).

Celebrations could bring in 1000+ cash/turn in Fundy... provided that we have the infrastructure.

	05-10-2003 19:00									#6
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Tough call, my €0.02:

1, City walls in 'safe' city's.
2, Baracks in city's who are not building units (eg too far from the railroad network or in need of Market/Bank)
3, Uni's, they are hardly worth the upkeep under Fundi.
4, Library's.

I would under no circumstances seel any monetary improvements.

One final note: As the President gets input and plans from all our ministers and the plans and wishes sometimes conflict I'd say let the President sell what he sees fit.

	05-10-2003 22:08									#7
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Since we are talking about emergency situations, we should not specify which structures the President should sell. And while the maintenance cost and selling value of a particular structure (say, Marketplace) is the same everywhere, a specific Marketplace may be less valuable in a city with few trade arrows than a less-desired Library in another city where there are many trade arrows.

	06-10-2003 11:35									#8
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IMHO

The President is free to sell anything that has become obsolete - for example because we capture a wonder or we capture a city with a building that is made obsolete by one of our existing wonders.

In an emergency, when the President needs cash to react to a clear and present danger, he is free to sell anything he wants to.

Otherwise, the citizens should specifically assent to the sale of buildings in a recent poll.

RJM at Sleeper's

	06-10-2003 21:34									#9
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If the president gets into that type of situation he or she should pause game play and post for the citizens to decide.