09-10-2003 14:05									#1
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Owen out

The choice of national squads tends to be way too conservative in my opinion, sticking with "tried and tested" players rather than giving someone a chance. That's why I applauded Erikson's choice of playing Rooney.

Now all we need now is that lump Heskey to get crocked.

Beattie and Rooney!

	09-10-2003 14:07									#2
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quote: Owen out

I think you'll reconsider this after the Turks send the English side home early.

	09-10-2003 14:10									#3
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Oh for ****'s sake.

I've always said that Rooney is badly over-rated and I'll keep saying it until he does something, anything, to prove me wrong. He flew of the handle in an aburdly childish way against Spurs last week, if that's the kind of immature temperament he has then the turks will eat him alive in Istanbul. He's all potential and media hype, with very little actual delivery. He's still a kid and will hopefully be a world-class player in 5 or 6 years. To try and pretend that he's even close to that now is a joke.

Beattie is a good club player, but hasn't made the step to the international game yet. He deserves a few more chances, but I'm not sure if this is the best game for it. However, if Owen is injured then we have very little choice.

Heskey is just rubbish.

I see no reason other than your anti-Liverpool bias to suggest that Owen's injury is a good thing for England.

	09-10-2003 14:12									#4
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quote: Heskey is just rubbish.

Very true.

quote: I see no reason other than your anti-Liverpool bias to suggest that Owen's injury is a good thing for England.

He's a moron as well. Don't forget that reason.

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If we are playing the same front two from a side, then that side should be really banging in the goals. Are Liverpool?

	09-10-2003 14:20									#6
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I'd actually like to see Alan Smith, Rooney and Beattie up top. A good fiery forward line is what we need in Turkey.

	09-10-2003 14:27									#7
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What a rubbish troll. Don't even bother responding to him people.

	09-10-2003 15:02									#8
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Sorry, I'm really bored.

Striker 1
Age: 23
Caps: 53
Goals: 24

Striker 2
Age: 24
Caps: 4
Goals: 0

Striker 3
Age: 26
Caps: 36
Goals: 5

Striker 4
Age: 17
Caps: 7
Goals: 2

Striker 5
Age: 23
Caps: 14
Goals: 4

Striker 6
Age: 23
Caps: 6
Goals: 1

	09-10-2003 15:03									#9
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Is that you not bothering to respond?

	09-10-2003 15:04									#10
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I edited in my apology.

I'm really bored and sad to say it's fun arguing with Pikey Parkey when he's being really retarded.

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spoiler(highlight to read): 1=owen 2=beattie 3=heskey 4=rooney 5=vassell 6=smith

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quote: Originally posted by MikeH I'm really bored and sad to say it's fun arguing with Pikey Parkey when he's being really retarded.

To paraphrase a certain charming little song... "I'd rather be a Turk than a Parkey"

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You are obviously correct in your spoiler.

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quote: To paraphrase a certain charming little song... "I'd rather be a Turk than a Parkey"

	10-10-2003 02:33									#16
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Vassell and Rooney up front would be interesting. I think I've seen 2 England matches with Beattie in and I wasn't impressed either time. He gave away too much and didn't really create anything. Owen may be tried ans tested, but he's also a good striker. He scores a lot and he scores consistantly. He's saved England enough times to be an automatic choice IMHO.

	13-10-2003 02:04									#17
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MikeH, I haven't denied in this thread that Michael Owen was never a good player, have I?

	13-10-2003 02:08									#18
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He's better now than ever.

	13-10-2003 02:10									#19
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Care to back that up with his goalscoring record for Liverpool and England over the last five years?

	13-10-2003 02:16									#20
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Sure

http://www.soccerage.com/en/04/12819.html

	13-10-2003 17:46									#21
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Which stats in particular do you want me to look at to understand that he is at his best ever?

	13-10-2003 17:48									#22
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And also explain how I can trust that site when it doesn't even give his correct place of birth

	13-10-2003 17:55									#23
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7 goals in 8 games for Liverpool already this season, 5 goals in the last 7 internationals. Much higher ratio than his average which is about 1/2 per international.

	13-10-2003 18:01									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue And also explain how I can trust that site when it doesn't even give his correct place of birth

He was born in Chester you asshat. If you have any shocking revelations to the contrary, with a reliable source, you're welcome to share them. You might also want to inform Liverpool football club: http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/team/squad/owen/

	13-10-2003 18:03									#25
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Michael Owen is God.

	13-10-2003 18:05									#26
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Only when he plays for England. When he plays for Liverpool he's "that little ****ing shitbag who keeps scoring against [your team]".

	13-10-2003 18:07									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Park Avenue And also explain how I can trust that site when it doesn't even give his correct place of birth

Chester (same as me!) is correct.The Countess of Chester Hospital to be exact.

And why would you play Smith, Rooney AND Beattie (not to mention Scholes pushing on) when we only needed a draw to qualify? Very tactically niave as Big Ron might say.

Heskey did a cracking job on Saturday (admitidly its about time)

	13-10-2003 18:27									#28
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quote: When he plays for Liverpool he's "that little ****ing shitbag who keeps scoring against [your team]".

That's why I root for Liverpool.

	13-10-2003 20:00									#29
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I loved it when only 20 min. after the game,the punters were saying:

"Ooh and see England going all the way in Portugal"

Yeah right
I'm not against England (I'll probably end up supoting them during the finals), but face it, you're just not good enough IMO.
Besides you're track record isn't all that great either, is it now.

	13-10-2003 20:07									#30
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I agree. The people who say we stand a realistic chance of winning the whole tournament are crazy. Frankly, we'd do well to get out of our group considering how strong the competition is. It's possible we'll win, anything's possible - Denmark won in '92 after all - but it isn't likely.