10-10-2003 01:25									#31
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quote: Designed by whom?

Nice play by Mr. Ben Kenoby....

	10-10-2003 01:33									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Shi Huangdi Either that or he is really good at making stuff up. I'm not sure we'd know the difference if he was.

He had too much time on his hands, when he studied one thing after another . . .

	10-10-2003 03:32									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Sava I disagree with the notion that society has an interest in promoting marriage. Marriage is not in line with what is natural for humans. Men are designed to **** everything and spread their seed... they aren't inherently stable creatures designed for monogamous relationships. Marriage can be good, but it can be bad. I don't think married couples should get benefits from the government.

I don't know about ritualized marriage, but monogamy actually goes two species back on the hominid evolutionary line. It seems that some genius Homo ergaster came up with the idea of mongoamy as a means of making his kin-group the baddest kin-group on the Serengeti. Previously most Homo ergaster kin-groups were alpha male dominate harems. Since the big guy there was constant competition for the favors of the goils such groups generally had fewer males than females. By giving each lady a man and each man a lady, the monogamous group had more muscle when it came to facing off against other groups for the right to have access to that yummy dead antelope carcas or those delicious bananas.

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quote: I disagree with the notion that society has an interest in promoting marriage. Marriage is not in line with what is natural for humans. Men are designed to **** everything and spread their seed... they aren't inherently stable creatures designed for monogamous relationships.

Hence the reason for promotion of marriage . If men just went around spreading their seed, it would cause great social unrest.

	10-10-2003 04:16									#35
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Did you know that the "crown" of the human glans penis is actually designed to scrape the previous guys sperm out of the female's vagina? Kinda tells you something about humans doesn't it?

	10-10-2003 04:25									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove I don't know about ritualized marriage, but monogamy actually goes two species back on the hominid evolutionary line. It seems that some genius Homo ergaster came up with the idea of mongoamy as a means of making his kin-group the baddest kin-group on the Serengeti. Previously most Homo ergaster kin-groups were alpha male dominate harems. Since the big guy there was constant competition for the favors of the goils such groups generally had fewer males than females. By giving each lady a man and each man a lady, the monogamous group had more muscle when it came to facing off against other groups for the right to have access to that yummy dead antelope carcas or those delicious bananas.

hey what have you studied/studying?

	10-10-2003 06:27									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Trajanus hey what have you studied/studying?

Strayer U.

	10-10-2003 07:21									#38
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Splitter! My anthro textbook lumped in homo ergaster with a different human species.

	10-10-2003 07:53									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui quote: I disagree with the notion that society has an interest in promoting marriage. Marriage is not in line with what is natural for humans. Men are designed to **** everything and spread their seed... they aren't inherently stable creatures designed for monogamous relationships. Hence the reason for promotion of marriage . If men just went around spreading their seed, it would cause great social unrest.

not if society is built upon such a principle... there are many small tribes that did not have a concept of monogamy... monogamy didn't develop as mutual bond... woman were seen as property, hence the Bible referring to adultery as a crime against poverty.

But then again, human civilization has developed some very unnatural rituals. I maintain that most Western civilization is still recovering from the Victorian era.

	10-10-2003 09:28									#40
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quote: not if society is built upon such a principle

You talk about monogamy meaning women as property. That is much better than a situation where the man has sex with the woman and then leaves when it is time to pay for the child and goes on and on to have more sex.

Better to have a monogamous marriage so that children have two stable parents. And monogamy gives women greater power than other marriage systems.

quote: there are many small tribes that did not have a concept of monogamy

Yes, if you want everyone to go back to primitive tribes maybe it'll work . But there is no way there is going to be a societal raising of children in a large, modern country anytime soon.

	10-10-2003 11:17									#41
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What's the difference between me and my girlfriend who have ben living together for 3 years and her friend who got married, then divorced after 8 months?

They got 8 months worth of benefits.

Marriage should have no state blessing. It should be purely a religious ritual.

	11-10-2003 04:41									#42
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quote: Originally posted by St Leo Splitter! My anthro textbook lumped in homo ergaster with a different human species.

Current theory is that Homo ergaster and Homo erectus were two different species, and it is ergaster from which we evolved, not erectus. Homo ergaster seems to have been much more industrious and creative.

	11-10-2003 09:25									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Sava I maintain that most Western civilization is still recovering from the Victorian era.

huh?

	11-10-2003 12:18									#44
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Punish the unmarried misfits! Punish the ungodly divorcees! Let till death do us part count for something! Cleanse society of bastard children!

	11-10-2003 16:08									#45
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quote: There is no point in promoting marriage if there are no kids as a result.

I agree.

	12-10-2003 23:47									#46
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one reason I got out of the military was I got paid less than married people.

It sucks working harder and getting paid less.

married people took time off all the time whenver their wives had a problem. Single people could not take time off.

I'm not bitter