09-10-2003 20:58									#1
	Marriage is descriminatory, single people should get its benifits! Increase the size of your Attachments

I COMPLETLEY and TOTALY support gay marriages-gays are fine, I have absolutely no problem with them-this ISNT an attack on homosexual's, nor is it "I'm not a racist but" post.

Arent marriage benifits by the goverment preferential treatment? Why should two people get special benifits and treatment just because they are married? Single people should get marriage benifits too, or abolish them completely!

	09-10-2003 21:05									#2
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i'll bite. why should single people get the same benefits that married people do?

after all, marriage is a choice...

	09-10-2003 21:11									#3
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Society has an interest in promoting marriage. It does not have an interest in promoting singleness.

	09-10-2003 21:12									#4
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If anything, single people have a higher economic burden and deserve all the help they can get.

	09-10-2003 21:12									#5
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Yeah, I should get to be nagged and have no sex life... hey! I already get that. Sweet.

	09-10-2003 21:12									#6
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There is no point in promoting marriage if there are no kids as a result.

	09-10-2003 21:16									#7
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to get a marriage benefit, you have to be married.

being single means you're not married. why would a single person get a marriage benefit?

	09-10-2003 21:20									#8
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quote: Originally posted by chegitz guevara Society has an interest in promoting marriage. It does not have an interest in promoting singleness.

That is the truth.

	09-10-2003 21:23									#9
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What about 2 people who are living together and have children but don't want to get married? Huh?

	09-10-2003 21:24									#10
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They have the same legal status. At least that's the way around here.

	09-10-2003 21:26									#11
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Not in the UK they don't. They should though.

	09-10-2003 21:29									#12
	Re: Marriage is descriminatory, single people should get its benifits! Tired of ads?

quote: Originally posted by Vesayen I COMPLETLEY and TOTALY support gay marriages-gays are fine, I have absolutely no problem with them-this ISNT an attack on homosexual's, nor is it "I'm not a racist but" post. Arent marriage benifits by the goverment preferential treatment? Why should two people get special benifits and treatment just because they are married? Single people should get marriage benifits too, or abolish them completely!

Because single heterosexuals have the freedom to enter a legally sanctioned marriage, they will always have access to the privileges that go with marriage.

So single, heterosexual people really are not being discriminated against -- they choose whether they want to marry or not.



But it would be interesting to learn more about the historical developments that led to legally sanctioned privileges of marriage in Western societies.

Any Apolytoner historian who is knowledgeable in this particular area?

	09-10-2003 21:31									#13
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Single gay people could marry someone as well just to exploit the tax perks. Get a gay couple and a lesbian couple together and do a double wedding.

	09-10-2003 21:33									#14
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH Not in the UK they don't. They should though.

Erm, yeah, that's ****ed.

	09-10-2003 21:47									#15
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Since the male/female sex act is the only one that produces children, the state has an interest in seeing that new children are well cared for. Marriage is a perk to entice parents to stick around.

	09-10-2003 22:02									#16
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Again mariage is reduced to tax benefits, but it was initially created for one purpose : establish, as firmly as possible, the filiation. Today, the filiation is considered granted, but this is only possible when children are conceived in stable environment dutifully registered, that is mariage.

	09-10-2003 22:04									#17
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well, these days they prolly could make babies without the male-female act.

	09-10-2003 22:19									#18
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You are all missing the point.

Single people should NOT get marriage benefits, because they already enjoy the advantage of living alone: they can go home when and with whom they want to, they can get laid with whoever they want (or can ), they can go out with friends and get drunk, they don't have to tell every single day to the same woman: "I love you" or buy flowers and chocolates when they forget it, they are actually allowed to spend their own money, no one is yelling at them: "leave the damn computer and wash the dishes!", they can watch football on TV, they don't have to take care of kids, etc. Need I continue?

Men who are getting married must be rewarded/encouraged somehow, otherwise no sane man would marry a woman and give up his freedom!

	09-10-2003 22:19									#19
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But the male-female act is so much fun!!

	09-10-2003 22:30									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Tiberius Men who are getting married must be rewarded/encouraged somehow, otherwise no sane man would marry a woman and give up his freedom!

You don't have to be married to give up your freedom.

Sometimes even willingly

	09-10-2003 22:34									#21
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Also, the fact a gay man or lesbian can be forbidden to see his/her lover who is seriously hospitalized smacks human decency and respect for others, down into the dirt.

	09-10-2003 22:36									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Urban Ranger Sometimes even willingly

I know, I know, just dreaming about the goold old days :nostalgic:

	09-10-2003 22:39									#23
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I disagree with the notion that society has an interest in promoting marriage. Marriage is not in line with what is natural for humans. Men are designed to **** everything and spread their seed... they aren't inherently stable creatures designed for monogamous relationships. Marriage can be good, but it can be bad. I don't think married couples should get benefits from the government.

	09-10-2003 23:20									#24
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Any Apolytoner historian who is knowledgeable in this particular area?

Reasonably knowledgeable, yeah, but I don't have time right now. Maybe tonight.

	09-10-2003 23:24									#25
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Reasonably knowledgeable, yeah, but I don't have time right now. Maybe tonight.

What, you can't recite the text verbatim?

I am SOOO disappointed in you.

	09-10-2003 23:30									#26
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I think the issue is how do we help families and kids without penalizing gays.

Another issue, how do we get men interested in marriage rather than endless "dating."

	09-10-2003 23:31									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Sava I disagree with the notion that society has an interest in promoting marriage. Marriage is not in line with what is natural for humans. Men are designed to **** everything and spread their seed... they aren't inherently stable creatures designed for monogamous relationships. Marriage can be good, but it can be bad. I don't think married couples should get benefits from the government.

Sava the barbarian, once again.

	09-10-2003 23:32									#28
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quote: But it would be interesting to learn more about the historical developments that led to legally sanctioned privileges of marriage in Western societies. Any Apolytoner historian who is knowledgeable in this particular area?

Do you really want to go down this road Mr. Fun?

quote: Marriage is not in line with what is natural for humans. Men are designed to **** everything and spread their seed...

Designed by whom?

	10-10-2003 00:10									#29
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat Reasonably knowledgeable, yeah, but I don't have time right now. Maybe tonight.

Why am I not surprised that you know something about this -- you know everything about everything.

	10-10-2003 01:15									#30
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quote: Originally posted by MrFun Why am I not surprised that you know something about this -- you know everything about everything.

Either that or he is really good at making stuff up. I'm not sure we'd know the difference if he was.