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I was surrounded by black bears at Yosemite while camping off the beaten track.
No problems, when not cooking.
This guy was a...jackass.


I had the same thing happen to me in Yosemite. My friend and I were backpacking the John Muir trail and we had so much food (for the three week trip) that it all wouldn't fit inside the bear proof canisters we were carrying. We thought we'd get by using the old hang the bag of food from a tree trick.

The bear was smart she kept coming back every time we went to sleep and when she couldn't climb out on the branch to get the food she chewed the branch off then raided our food. My friend and I both woke up when the branch fell and began banging out camp pots together to try to scare the bear off. She eventually did leave but not until she and her cub and grabbed most of the beefjerky and trail mix.

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but not until she and her cub and grabbed most of the beefjerky .



She did you a favor.

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I wonder how bear woud react if we first stared each other, sizeing up ... and I'd start dancing. Throwing all my power moves in one mindblasting supercombo. Makes me wonder what goes in the bears mind after that, and what wonders me the most is if the bear takes the challenge and throws some dancing moves too, trying to outdance me, right there, right then. Just me and the bear, and the dance floor. It's crazy in the woods I'm telling you!

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Pekka, you got issues

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Japher, maybe.. but just think about it.. wouldn't that be AWESOME? Here's a picture to help you get a better mental picture.

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NOOOOOOOOOOO! What happened to the picture?!

edit: ah it worked.. I had to change my style to ultra light special to see it.

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Dude, that was funny.

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"When I was a kid my favorite relative was Uncle Caveman. After school we'd all go play in his cave, and every once in a while he would eat one of us. It wasn't until later that I found out that Uncle Caveman was a bear. "

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Quite a few bears are shot in self-defense in Sweden. For some peculiar reason, only moose-hunters are attacked by bears, never berry-pickers or hikers. Don't ask me why.

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Quite a few bears are shot in self-defense in Sweden. For some peculiar reason, only moose-hunters are attacked by bears, never berry-pickers or hikers. Don't ask me why.


Probably beacuse only jackasses with guns mess with the bears.

Berry-pickers and hikers won't. Even if they did, without a gun they are going to lose, so how would you know anyway?



ACK!

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This guy nearly made it for the Darwin Awards, animal category. He didn't die, though, so he can't get one.
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New York tiger and alligator make it out of the projects

The animals were found in a Harlem apartment when the man who was raising them went to hospital after being bitten

NY TIMES NEWS SERVICE , NEW YORK
Tuesday, Oct 07, 2003,Page 16
"He was straight up ... He raised a healthy tiger. They should find him a job with animals."

Aaron Yates, brother of man who kept a tiger in his apartment

His obsession began innocently enough, with the puppies and broken-winged birds every little boy begs to bring home. Over the years, Antoine Yates' taste in animals grew ever more exotic, neighbors said, and his collection came to include reptiles, a monkey or two, and according to one neighbor, even a hyena.

He had a boundless affection for living creatures that he might have picked up from his mother, Martha Yates. Over the years, Martha Yates raised dozens of foster children in her five-bedroom apartment in a public housing high-rise in Harlem, according to one of her foster sons.

But when Yates' most exotic pet -- a tiger that he named Ming -- grew to more than 180kg and let loose a fearsome roar, that happy home disintegrated. Terrified by the beast, Martha Yates packed up the last two of her foster children and moved to a suburb of Philadelphia earlier this year, neighbors said.

Yates, increasingly hard pressed to control the tiger, apparently decamped, too, to a nearby apartment. He continued to feed the beast by throwing raw chickens through a door opened just narrowly enough to keep a paw the size of a lunch plate from swiping through, neighbors said.

Last Saturday, the police moved in, alerted by Yates' curious call in which he claimed to have been bitten by a pit bull. They found Ming and removed the tiger from Apartment 5E after it was shot with tranquilizers darts by a sharpshooter who rappelled down the side of the apartment house. The mission created a swirl of excitement in the neighborhood and left a series of questions for an assortment of officials.

The police are trying to determine where Yates got a tiger cub and how he managed to raise it from cuddly kitten to full adult size in a public housing project for several years.

Officials at the city's Administration for Children's Services said they were trying to determine whether foster children had lived in the apartment while the tiger and other dangerous animals were there. And officials of the New York City Housing Authority were trying to determine how the tiger escaped the notice of workers at the complex.

People who live in the high-rise apartment building in the Drew-Hamilton Houses at 2430 Adam Clayton Powell Boulevard said that the tiger had lived among them for at least three years. His presence, while strange, was widely known, and it did not really alarm anyone, they said.

Jerome Applewhite, 43, who lives on the 18th floor, first encountered Ming about three years ago, when he stopped into the apartment for a visit and saw Yates sitting with the tiger cub cradled in his arms.

"He was feeding it with a bottle," Applewhite said. "He cared for his pets."

The presence of a creature only seen in the far east -- or north, if one includes the Bronx Zoo -- in a New York City apartment did not surprise him much, he said.

"It was a house pet," Applewhite said. "To me that is cool."

City officials did not share this view.

"Tigers are dangerous animals," Mayor Michael Bloomberg told reporters on Sunday at a news conference on Fifth Avenue before marching in the Pulaski Day Parade. "Clearly this tiger should not have been in anyplace in New York City outside of a zoo."

Investigators from the New York City Police Department questioned Yates, who was placed under guard after he turned up at a Philadelphia hospital. On Saturday he went to Harlem Hospital Center, where he told skeptical doctors the bites on an arm and a leg were from a pit bull. He checked out early Friday, prompting an inquiry into his whereabouts.

Kathleen Carlson, a spokeswoman for the Administration for Children Services, said the agency was "looking into our history, if any, at this address."

Howard Marder, a spokesman for the housing authority, which oversees public housing, said officials there are trying to determine when the apartment was last inspected and how a tiger managed to escape detection. He said authority records indicate that one complaint was received about the smell of urine coming from the apartment.

Public housing residents are permitted to have only one pet, and it must weigh no more than 18kg, Marder said. It was unclear exactly who was supposed to be living in the Yates' apartment, he added. He said records indicate Martha Yates moved out in January, but neighbors said she was still living in the apartment as recently as June.

The tiger, along with a 1.5m-long alligator-like reptile called a cayman, that was also found in the apartment, were taken to a New York animal shelter.

No one at the Drew-Hamilton Houses who knew Yates was sure on Sunday exactly how Yates came to have a tiger cub. But he was well known there as an outsized character who, above all else, loved animals.

"Every time I have ever seen him, he was talking about his exotic animals," said Wanda Tompkins, 26, whose family has lived in the apartment directly below Yates' for the past five years. "He was nice, but he was a bit strange."

Tompkins' mother, Valerie, said that she had long known that a strange assortment of beasts lived upstairs. It was not a problem until this summer, when she tried to raise her windows and found the sills soaked with urine and an animal stench invading her apartment.

"I complained to housing, but they never responded," Valerie Tompkins said. She had never seen the tiger, but her daughter Janaya had. Janaya, 11, was a friend of one of Yates' foster children, a girl named Dana, Janaya said.

"She asked me if I wanted to see the tiger," Janaya said. She told Dana, yes, she did want to see it, and Dana led her to one of the apartment's bedrooms. The tiger was lying inside a cage. Janaya said she was too terrified to pet it. "It was scary," she said.

Raven Eaton, who works at the nearby Associated Supermarket, said Yates would come in to the store every afternoon to buy several bags of raw chicken.

"He said they were for his animals," Eaton said. He never said what kind of animals he had. "He was as normal as someone like Antoine could be."

Whatever his motives, city officials said that it was both unsafe and cruel to keep a tiger in an apartment. A police officer who answered the telephone in Yates' room at the University of Pennsylvania Medical Center in Philadelphia said Yates did not wish to be interviewed.

Yates' brother, Aaron, 24, said Antoine Yates loved and cared for his animals and never wanted to hurt them.

"His love for animals started when we were babies," he said. "He would nurse animals off the street. He got that from my mother."

"He was straight up," he added. "He raised a healthy tiger. They should find him a job with animals."

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JW, Now ask yourself, is that quote too long to read?
Hint: Yes it is.
What is your answer Mr JaguarWarrior?

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You didn't have to read the whole thing. The point is that a guy was keeping a tiger and an alligator in his apartment and he got mauled.

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JW, thanks for the caption. Sounds pretty stupid!

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Every year Turkey produces numerous contenders for the Darwin Award - Animal Handling Division. It happens during the Kurbun Bayram, the holiday celebrating God letting Abraham spare his son Isaac and instead kill a ram. All over Turkey, rams (and the occasional bull) are slaughtered in rememberance. In the country, of course, you do it your self, and it is the proud perogative of the patriarch to do the job. In the cities, the government has set up specially-designated slaughtering stations, but country folk regard these as an offense to tradition and unmanly.

The problem is, Turkey is no longer a rural nation; in the last 20 years, a huge portion of the the rural population has moved to Istanbul. And every Bayram, like clockwork, come the stories of the manly heads of household who drag rams into their apartment buildings, up to their 9th floor apartments, and into the bathroom for slaughter -- only to have the very last thing they learn in life be how very dangerous a ram can be in a confined space.

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I don't think he earned the Darwin. Stupid as it was, it just isn't funny or unique enough. Too many stupid people ****ing with the animals out there...


This guy wrote books about it: The touchy-feely Malibu hippie liberal guide to Dancing with Bears. That should qualify him.

Black bears are one thing, Kodiaks and grizzlies another thing entirely.

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Bear attacks are pretty rare, and you basically have to back thm into a corner, get between them and their food (which could be your food) or cubs or just be in their way. Bear attacks virtually stpped in Glacier National Park when they figured out that a camp ground was on a bear track, and moved the camp ground.

Me, I'd never go wandering around in bear country without a gun. I just don't want to be eaten.


With Kodiaks and grizzlies, sometimes your mere existence withing their field of sight or smell means you're in the way.

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Around brown/grizzly bear country a large caliber rifle would be a wise percaution.


or a pistol, usualy the noise will scare them off. and if it doesnt its not like you'll have the chance to get a good shot in before its on top of you.

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pfft, I could beat them up with one hand tied behind my back. Polar bears on the other hand...

Polar bears are scary, they actually go out of thier ways to hunt people. They're extremely smart too, they will hunt in groups and scare a person into running into a trap. There was an incident where a guy in Prudhoe bay was sitting next to a window eating hi lunch and a polar bear grabbed him and pulled him out of the building. Last winter a guy got eaten by a polar bear.

its fun knowing that at any second while youre walking home you might be being hunted.

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Ever go hicking in a national or state forest?



I didn't even know this sort of thing was legal. What do you do with the hicks when you see them?

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. If the bear's out to eat you (very rare), you're dead anyway, since they can run faster than you, swim faster, and climb trees faster.


Think again.


If I were a dove I'd be quaking on my boots. As for bears, I'd prefer something with more ability to penetrate a bears hide more than 3 meters away.

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The best thing about the guy who kept a tiger in his apartment is that the tiger's name was Ming.

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If I were a dove I'd be quaking on my boots. As for bears, I'd prefer something with more ability to penetrate a bears hide more than 3 meters away.


That's why I was talking about it being for self-defence, you heartless poacher.

Plus, I wonder how thick his hide is in the skull area.

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Plus, I wonder how thick his hide is in the skull area.


Actually, nothing short of a large calibur rifle is useful for taking down a grizzly/Kodiak or polar bear. Pistols won't even slow them down, and a shot gun might kill a charging grizzly at close range, but you won't have a second chance if you don't get it on the first try.



Often times, a grizzly will bluff charge to see what you'll do. If you panic and run, you're toast. They can run at about 30 miles an hour, which is more than ten miles an hour than the fastest human ever. They can smash car windows and rip the doors off of cars, so if you can get to your car, drive fast, don't relax.

Best bet, don't go into bear country. Next best bet, carry a large calibur rifle and hope the bear doesn't eat you while you're sleeping. 3rd best bet, bluff the bear. The bear knows its the baddest thin out there, so anything that stands up to a bear must be tough in the bear's mind. Plus, the bear can't risk being hurt, since it needs all its strength to bulk up fo winter and an injury can easily mean starving to death before spring.

If all else fails, play dead or jump off a cliff if one's handy. You might survive the fall. Try and catch a tree on the way down.

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Bears seem like immensly annoying goons. All of this makes me feel a lot less sorry for them when they're captured and treated like **** in sideshows.

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Bears are magnificent creatures. We just have to learn to respect the bear in its habitat and not do stupid ****, like try and touch them.

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Most wild animals, actually, will **** you up. Apparently the most dangerous wild animal in the world, in terms of loss of human life, is the hippopotumus.

In the U.S. we have the magnificent Yellowstone National Park. More than 300 visitors have lost their lives there, and many more are injured. Many people just don't seem to get the concept of wild.

When Bunnygrrl, Theben, and I drove through one day on our way home from Orgeon, there were signs all over saying, do not approach the animals, they are wild. Well, we saw some dumbshit approaching a bison trying to take a picture. About a half hour further down the road (it was like rush hour, wall to wall cars in the forest), along comes an ambulance. idiot.

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Yeah, but the bison bought it too, I'm betting.
It always seems to be a case of "This creature has trampled/gored the, admittedly very stupid, man who got too close to it. It'll have to be shot for the safety of others."

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Bison they pretty much don't. Bears, it depends on the circumstance, whether you shoot it, or trap it and dump it way further out in the boonies.

When I was in Yellowstone as a kid (back when they had flashcubes for those little 126-film Kodak instamatics :dinosaur: ) we saw the immediate aftermath of the same kind of stupidity as chegitz mentions - dumbass went out with one of those pocket instamatics, lined up for the nose-print closeup of the first bull buffalo he found, and POP goes the flashbulb.

The ambulance was already there, but from the looks of things, I doubt the moron survived.

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Polar bears are scary, they actually go out of thier ways to hunt people. They're extremely smart too, they will hunt in groups and scare a person into running into a trap. There was an incident where a guy in Prudhoe bay was sitting next to a window eating hi lunch and a polar bear grabbed him and pulled him out of the building. Last winter a guy got eaten by a polar bear.

its fun knowing that at any second while youre walking home you might be being hunted.



Wow -- that is scary sh*t.

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Yeah, the bison only get killed when they cross park lands. Some kinda minor disease in bison that very, very rarely jumps species into cattle, where it is more serious. Some sixty precent of the Yellowstone heard was wiped out a few winters back during a harsh season, when they left the higher elevations of the park and went down onto rancher lands to graze.

****in' ranchers, they kill off all our natural critters, even if they get reimbursed by the Feds for any ranch animal that's killed or harmed by public wildlife. Not that they could ever prove a bald eagle could take down a sheep Sure, wolves and grizzlies are minor threats to ranch animals, but you get the damn money back.

 
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