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Rufus T. Firefly is offline Rufus T. Firefly
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I'd suggest a new hobby...except now they don't need one. A new title for the book is probably also in order.

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Sounds of bear attack caught on tape
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The graphic sounds of a deadly bear attack in the Alaska wilderness were captured on tape, revealing one of the victims' frantic screams as he tried to fend off the beast, authorities said Wednesday.

TROOPER CHRIS HILL said the tape suggests a video camera was turned on just before Timothy Treadwell was attacked at his campsite. His girlfriend, Amie Huguenard, was later mauled to death by a bear. The recording is audio only, and the screen is blank for all six minutes.

"They're both screaming, she's telling him to play dead, then it changes to fighting back. He asks her to hit the bear," Hill said. "There's so much noise going on. I don't know what's him and what might be an animal.

"It's pretty disturbing. I keep hearing it in my mind."

The remains of Treadwell, 46, and Huguenard, 37, both of Malibu, Calif., were found Monday at Katmai National Park and Preserve on the Alaska Peninsula. Treadwell was known for approaching, even touching, bears in the wild.

An air taxi pilot who arrived to pick up the couple contacted the National Park Service and troopers to report a brown bear was apparently sitting on top of human remains in the camp.

A ranger shot and killed a large brown bear when the animal charged at them through the dense brush. Troopers and rangers later killed a smaller bear apparently stalking them.

Hill said he was stunned by what he heard on the tape.

"The audio starts while he's being mauled and ends while he's being mauled," Hill said.

Treadwell may have heard a bear and asked Huguenard to turn on the camera, which was found with the lens cap on and packed in a camera bag, Hill said.

"At first, she sounds kind of surprised and asks if it's still out there. I'm not sure if she was asking if a bear was outside their tent or in the brush," Hill said. "The audio stops because the tape runs out. Otherwise, it probably would have captured the whole thing."

Hill said he will attempt to transcribe the tape. But there are no plans to make the recording or transcripts public, trooper spokesman Greg Wilkinson said.

Troopers recovered video and still photography equipment as well as three hours of earlier video footage from the site, across Shelikof Strait from Kodiak Island.

Much of the footage is close-up shots of bears. Some scenes show bears no more than a few feet from Treadwell, co-author of "Among Grizzlies: Living With Wild Bears in Alaska." Others show a more timid Huguenard leaning away as bears come close to her on the bank of a river.

© 2003 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.


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Sometimes you get the bear. Sometimes the bear gets you.

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never poke the bear

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Treadwell is the type person for which the term "jackass" was coined.

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Bear attacks are pretty rare, and you basically have to back thm into a corner, get between them and their food (which could be your food) or cubs or just be in their way. Bear attacks virtually stpped in Glacier National Park when they figured out that a camp ground was on a bear track, and moved the camp ground.

Me, I'd never go wandering around in bear country without a gun. I just don't want to be eaten.

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And that's why passing the time by trying to touch big bears should get you tossed out of the gene pool.

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I heard this on the radio today... I guess the guy went on Leno and said that Bears are very gentle and that he would never hurt a bear... I guess Bears watch Leno...

Hey, here's one Bear who won! Unlike the Chicago kind.

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Bear attacks are pretty rare, and you basically have to back thm into a corner, get between them and their food (which could be your food) or cubs or just be in their way.


Or meet the same bear a poacher has. (or any other possible reactions with humans that could cause a bear to reconize us as a threat or obstacle, for that matter.)

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Most of the time you can scare the bear away, if you know what you're doing. It's when you get caught in a tent that it's likely to be a fatal encounter, as the bear is looking to eat you. Playing dead won't help in this case.

He didn't get killed approaching a bear. The bear attacked them in their tent. At that point there was nothing to do but try and escape.

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I was surrounded by black bears at Yosemite while camping off the beaten track.
No problems, when not cooking.
This guy was a...jackass.

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Black bears are a lot more timid than grizzlies. They still manage to f*ck people up every now and then.

I agree he was a jackass, though. But for bringing his girlfriend to her doom.

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I don't think he earned the Darwin. Stupid as it was, it just isn't funny or unique enough. Too many stupid people ****ing with the animals out there...

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They may be less hostile, but they weren't what I'd call timid.
Pictures all over the ranger station about attacks on cars and such, to get at food.That's what this may have been over.
Bears are hogs. Yogi was a pretty accurate depiction.

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GUN, people. You're living in the F$#$ing US of A, and don't get a gun when you go to bear country? that's just f#$%ing stupid.

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Well.. bears I guess are not on killing mode by default. But there are cases when approaching them is not a good idea (like every frigging case??!!). Especially, when it's the.. what you call it.. sex making season (sorry lack of vocabulary), so if you bump into male bear, and there's a female bear in heat, you know it's dangerous.
Chances are you're not boning this chick, oh no the odds are against YOU.

Another one if it's a female bear, and even if you don't know it, it might have some babies near.. and it gets protective.. maybe even paranoid after eating all those poisonous berries.. hallucinating and being toxicated like that can get you killed.

Also if you're near its home.. they can again get protective.. you are not invited, so don't push it. Or if you insist, make sure the only thing you're pulling is the trigger. So you shouldn't bother these creatures, you never know what's going on if you're not very familiar with the place and conditions. And even then, you shouldn't be poking these fellas, since you NEVER can be sure. My dog never bit me, but I'm sure she thought about it few times. But I was the master, and you are not the master of bears.

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I think any idiot knows; don't fvck with nature...

Well, maybe not this idiot.

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don't **** with nature?

what kind of human are you?

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Guns are banned where liquor is served and National Parks.

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Even in self-defence?

I'd never go to a national park with dangerous animals in such a case.

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I think any idiot knows; don't fvck with nature.


We **** with nature all the time. Ever go swimming in the ocean? Ever go hicking in a national or state forest?

He was not killed approaching a bear. He and his girlfrind were attacked in their tent. This is the rarist kind of event, but it's the most fatal.

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I'd never go to a national park with dangerous animals in such a case.


But you'd live in Isreal?

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Yeah, and the difference between poking animals.. first of all, if you poke animals, you can usually beat up this animal anyway. But against bear, you poke it, you're likely to fail. It's not impossible, there are many cases a year around the world that people got into trouble but managed to escape after some wrestling. But it's too strong, even the babies..... You guys know, if dog nibbles you, it pinches a little at the most, but if bear nibbles you, it's good buy arm and leg. And when the dog gets out of order and starts acting out of its place, you can always submit it, if it's fighting or just looking to its eyes. You're not afraid of a dog so much, and it knows it's punishing time, so it won't even challenge you.

But bears.. they know you're the *****, and they see you are scared in your eyes, so they go further acting out of their places.

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che, oh yeah they were attacked.. damn. I guess all my advices of not poking this fellows were not relevant .

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But you'd live in Isreal?


Yes.

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Hey, I'm getting some ideas here.. how can I benefit from this (yes how weird is that?).

I should start desiging equipment against attacks like these. I don't know, maybe there is high pitch voices you can't hear (like dogs) that makes the bears ears hurt and bleed, or things like that. That is if you don't have a gun or don't want to shoot them. Some kind of.... I don't know, maybe I'll get back to this.

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But bears.. they know you're the *****,


This is not always the case. If you run across a bear, and its not a moma with her cubs, you can usually bluff them. Stand up on your tip toes and raise your arms over your head as far as you can. This makes the bear think you're much bigger than you really are. Then growl or yell or make a load noise. Most bears will back away. Air horns are also useful, since the really loud noise can scare them.

If a bear does attack, your best chance of survival is to play dead, since most of the time, the bear is trying to remove a threat. If the bear's out to eat you (very rare), you're dead anyway, since they can run faster than you, swim faster, and climb trees faster.

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Treadwell is the type person for which the term "jackass" was coined.


Agreed. It is amazing how stupid some people are. Why do so many people from the city not understand the difference between a wild animal and a pet?

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Me, I'd never go wandering around in bear country without a gun. I just don't want to be eaten.


You don't need a gun if there are only black bears around. Those guys are small and often run away as soon as you see them. It's the brown bears you have to look out for they're the top preditor where they live and they've been known to stalk people who stray into their territory.

Around brown/grizzly bear country a large caliber rifle would be a wise percaution.

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che, true.. I didn't know about that raising arms thing though.
It's funny, when I was a kid, I thought I wouldn't be playing dead but climb a tree instead fast. Then I saw some documentary about wild life and bears, they are so quick and then can climb like spiderman, it's amazing considering their weight and all that.

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. If the bear's out to eat you (very rare), you're dead anyway, since they can run faster than you, swim faster, and climb trees faster.


Think again.

 
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