10-10-2003 18:11									#1
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Comrades, it seems that every few days Kody has to remind us that he simply can't control the whole Hive on his own. We need people to cover the following jobs to assist his planning.

THESE JOBS ARE NOT HARD TO DO AND YOU DON'T EVEN NEED A CALCULATOR!

A new Marshal is needed in the continuing absence of Roko to direct millitary/probe movements. I suggest either Octavian, Vev or the Chairman himself, but anyone can volunteer. If we don't get one, millitary units WILL NOT BE MOVED!

A deputy to Kody is required so he can go on holiday sometimes. He has been trying to instruct me, Micha and Vev in the secrets of his planning, but again, anyone can do it. Apply now for the position of DEPUTY TURN PLANNER/PLAYER!

I also suggest that HongHu expand her intelligence activities to include the Pirates, as we now have full infilteration. Of course others are welcome to appy for the position, but we may want to rely on HongHu.

Job 4 : The Chairman's position should be exercised more for diplomatic purposes. He is the one who should conduct official negotiations with our pacted brethren in the Drones and Pirates, in discussion with the rest of the team, as he sees fit.

Anyone who wants to do ANYTHING will be welcome to do it - we are getting desperate.

If noone puts their names forward we may have to shut down Kody Central Planning and play in a MUCH less effecient manner. We are leading the the moment, thanks to Kody really, and as the game progresses and we get more bases and more units and meet more factions, we can't expect Kody to continue to do it all. If noone else volunteers, then I'll take over and you WON'T LIKE THAT AT ALL

-Jam

	10-10-2003 19:13									#2
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What's the job benefit?

	10-10-2003 19:33									#3
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A feeling of satisfaction and the undying love, respect and gratitude of Kody for ever.

-Jam

	10-10-2003 20:04									#4
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Are you implying that he doesn't have those nice feelings toward all of his comrades right now?

	10-10-2003 20:41									#5
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Ok I am realitivley new here but I am willing to help I could do the troop/probe movements if needed. Rest I don't think I know enough to do really. Email is dacole@wfubmc.edu. Hotmail is dcole78@hotmail.com. I am a graduate student in real life so may not be on msn often but will be able to talk when I am!

Glory to the hive!

	10-10-2003 23:39									#6
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dacole ......

of the Spatan Chronicles fame???

Googlie

	11-10-2003 01:26									#7
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Man you actually remember me My god!! Bows down and kisses the feet of Googlie I can not believe the great God remembers me...my writeing was terrible and I didn't stay nearly as long as I wanted to but yes that was me! This humble comrade is deeply grateful the great God googlie remembers him!

	11-10-2003 01:56									#8
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Coooooool, that was some good reading man We have (had) a Hive story running too, if you wanna ressurrect it.

-Jam

	11-10-2003 02:16									#9
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This really has gone too far, we need people to participate in more than just occasionally posting spam on the forums. I am as guilty of this as the rest of you, I do converse, as all of us on MSN do, with Comrade Kody about decisions, but he ends up doing all the work.

First and foremost, to get this matter sorted out myself, Vev, HongHu, Jamski, Micha, Octavian, as well as any other active members (forgive me if I failed to mention you) must take on greater administrative responsibilities. From now on when we have a turn-chat the responsibility of posting the turn update should not fall to Comrade Kody (he does more than enough work as it is planning the turns). Jamski, I, or any other present member (in case of our absence) will post the turn update. Run the necessary polls. And other mundane tasks like that. (I know some of you have already been doing this, and I thank you on behalf of Comrade Kody, but we need to do more).

Secondly we must also be actively involved in the planning process. We must decide on the military unit movements, in light of the absence of our Marshal. Until we can find someone to replace him we will make these decisions during a MSN chat well before the turn is actually posted.

Lastly, and I think most importantly, we need to make the in-game domestic decisions as a group. Comrade Kody has been doing all the planning, and he has done a magnificent job, because of this we feel it is best left in his hands, and maybe this indeed is true. But the fact remains that the process it time consuming and to leave it all to one person. Therefore we need a division of labor, we really need people to take on the science planning, terraforming, construction, etc. positions and make plans independently for those. If we divide up tasks like that we can get a lot accomplished in relatively little time (in comparison to what it takes Comrade Kody to plan the entire turn all by himself).

	11-10-2003 02:41									#10
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I *could* take a role on the CMC, assuming that I had a screenshot posted with each turn. Remember, I don't actually even have a working copy of SMAC...

	11-10-2003 02:52									#11
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Well we can start with at least having a weekly meeting at a regular time. That will help.

-Jam

	11-10-2003 03:12									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Octavian X I *could* take a role on the CMC, assuming that I had a screenshot posted with each turn. Remember, I don't actually even have a working copy of SMAC...

You could learn from how the Drones do it:

Buster starts a new thread every turn, and in pre-turn planning posts an overall screenshot, one of every base and the map (so big now that it has to be broken down into segments) then invites discussion

Players without SMAX can thus add their wisdom, a concensus is reached, Buster fine-tunes it based on his gaming experience, and then plays the turn.

That's why the Drones play their turns so quickly - the 'down-time' between turns is filled with next-turn planning

Of course, that takes efffort too (and is easier at CGN 'cos you don't have to go through the upload then [img] route - you can just add attachments to any post)

G.

	11-10-2003 03:21									#13
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This is kind of what we do though, except the screenshot goes in the same thread always... but we could change perhaps?

John, Chairman V, what do you guys think? Can we learn from the Drones example?

-Jam

	11-10-2003 03:35									#14
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Sounds like a good way to do it. Although it would be nice if someone else organised the screenshot posting. I dislike the way it's done at apolyton.

Another thing. Saving the screenshots as gifs actually gives better fine detail then jpeg and is smaller. The only difference is the color is worse, however for planning purposes we're after detail rather than pictures looking nice.

	11-10-2003 04:42									#15
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Comrade Micha reports for duty! *salutes*

I´d like to continue my turnplanning training, since there´s still much left to learn. Comrade Kody, could you set a certain GMT time for this? As you are the one with limited time ressources, this is the best way to coordinate our online times

Unfortunately I was not able to get online during the past two days. I apologize for that.

For the drone type of planning:
Although not very effective for the five-year-planning, the tactical aspects of unit movements can be managed well by using the drone´s way. I have troubles posting true-colour screenshots (I lack adequate graphic programs) so this job should be done by better equipped Hive personnel

- Micha

	11-10-2003 04:51									#16
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You actually don't need to post upload/download pics every turn. Just upload the various nexus, base and map pics once, then refer to them in the [img] links, then just update them every turn, overwriting the old one.

The [img] reference will update itself when it links to the new uploaded pic.

So at least one step is taken away

(of course, when you resite bases the old link would need to be removed, so some future editing would be necessary)

G.

	12-10-2003 10:39									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Jamski This is kind of what we do though, except the screenshot goes in the same thread always... but we could change perhaps? John, Chairman V, what do you guys think? Can we learn from the Drones example? -Jam

Let us give it a shot, I will take on the roll of taking the screen captures (I used to do it before) so long as I am present for the turn chat (if not we can always post the completed turn on our private forums, and when I get online I'd do the turn update).

	13-10-2003 03:31									#18
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Um, if you really want the job Oct X, then you can have it. *sniffles* I WOULD like to continue to perform my old function...

- Rokossovky

(now off to see if there is a war I can start....:evilgrin

	13-10-2003 12:23									#19
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There may well be if our probe ops go wrong

-Jam

	15-10-2003 05:52									#20
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Ok I could take on science planning if needed or part of the war planning probe actions perhaps or maybe terreforming if nessecary. I do not have an active copy of smacx though that might change soon. (Only have smac sigh) science though I could do without it I think has anyone researched the secrets of the human brain yet by the way? If not we should soon...also to give the science officer more to do we should include special project decisions in that job as well (what should be built and when ect..if it should be rushed)

	15-10-2003 07:28									#21
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Science officer isn't just choosing the techs. It's making sure we can follow the beelines without being diverted from tech availability. Also you need to coordinate the beelines between the hive, drones, and might also include the cycon too. Predicted research completion also should be taken into account as it affects the research coordination.

So far I haven't found anyone else up for that.

	17-10-2003 17:16									#22
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We could do with a pop booming specialist if anyone is up to the job.