13-10-2003 06:12									#1
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It is portraying the Americans as the "brave innocent victims fighting against the evil mexicans!".

Which as anyone with a historical backround knows is utter bs....

Texans were illegally crossing the border in large numbers and breaking Mexican law(i.e. slave laws amoung others).

When these aggresive settlers who are telling Mexico to F off are slaughtered wholesale, how are they brave, innocent victims :?

	13-10-2003 06:13									#2
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One question:

Is the movie in English or Spanish?

	13-10-2003 06:15									#3
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No. It looks like it might be entertaining. I don't go to movies for history lessons.

	13-10-2003 06:16									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar One question: Is the movie in English or Spanish?

English, and total ######## from the promo I saw for it.

	13-10-2003 06:19									#5
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I think it looks awesome, and will certainly be seeing it

Historical movies always warp the truth anyway...

	13-10-2003 06:19									#6
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You're going to have an ulcer by the time you're 20.

	13-10-2003 06:21									#7
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well it's okay with that submarine movie. It's okay to demonize white people.

But this film is not politically correct. It should not be showing the mexicans in a negative light.

	13-10-2003 06:23									#8
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Quite "pissy" today, aren't we...

	13-10-2003 06:24									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Vesayen English,

Well then did you expect anything less than blatant revisionist history?!

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quote: Originally posted by Dissident well it's okay with that submarine movie. It's okay to demonize white people. But this film is not politically correct. It should not be showing the mexicans in a negative light.

It has nothing to do with mexicans in a negative light.... in this case whitey WAS the bad guy lol!

	13-10-2003 06:24									#11
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quote: Originally posted by centrifuge Historical movies always warp the truth anyway...

For a film that tries to break this mold, you might enjoy the new movie about Martin Luther which is far more accurate than not (allowing for the limitations of the medium, that is).

	13-10-2003 06:25									#12
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yes but by showing the whiteys as the good guys, well you know what that leaves the mexicans as...

just for that, I'm going to piss on the alamo.

And no John Wayne in this movie

	13-10-2003 07:03									#13
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Uh, this looks like another movie trying to compensate for the fact that US doesn't have an interesting history. I'll pass.

The trailer was only slightly less ponderous and boring than the Seabiscuit trailer. Ugh.

	13-10-2003 07:12									#14
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Does the movie make any mention that one reason for the conflict, was that some white settlers who were slave owners, were violating Mexico's abolishment of slavery??

	13-10-2003 08:42									#15
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From the preview no it dosent, it shows the poor innocent texans being killed by the evil dirty brown mexicans..... complete #$(@$*%@.

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Interesting..do the producers expect this flick to do well in the overseas markets?
Oh, and I have not seen the previous, and I will see this film about the same time I see Pearl Harbor.......

	13-10-2003 08:49									#17
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I wonder how many versions of "The Alamo" have been made since the dawn of cinema? Is it possibly the most re-made picture in motion picture history?

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And they're all Anglophilic in nature . . .


surprises, surprises.

	13-10-2003 08:53									#19
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I am sure Frankenstein and dracula are well ahead. Now, if you mean just historical pics, maybe Custer gives it a run for it's money, and that is not even going into non-American film industries. Maybe other states really like to beath their own dead horses.

	13-10-2003 08:54									#20
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Well, Mexico has a film industry. Why don't they make their own version?

	13-10-2003 08:56									#21
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How the hell should I know why they haven't produced their own version?

	13-10-2003 08:58									#22
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I hope they have the part where Jim Bowie gets carried accross the volunteer line on his bed.

	13-10-2003 08:58									#23
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quote: And no John Wayne in this movie

	13-10-2003 09:01									#24
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quote: Texans were illegally crossing the border in large numbers

Not true, actually. Mexicans wanted Americans to come into Texas and were inviting them in. Of course the American settlers violated the slave laws.

It seems 'The Alamo' is just about that one battle, with little exposition. However, the TRAILER says it is a true story about what "TWO sides fought for what they believed... protected what they loved... and gave the world a legend".

Looks sweet though .

	13-10-2003 09:03									#25
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Wait...Mexicans aren't evil?

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quote: Originally posted by Dr Strangelove Well, Mexico has a film industry. Why don't they make their own version?

Whom would they cast as a bunch of gringos in the Alamo? It probably is more expensive for them to get enough whites than it is for an American unit to get enough Chicanos. Plus American crews get to examine the actual Aamo withou that whole immigration problem.

	13-10-2003 09:04									#27
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Mexico welcomed white settlers initially -- until white slaveowners decided to come in large numbers, and ignore Mexico's abolishment of slavery.

	13-10-2003 09:06									#28
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Who cares about accuracy, we greased all your gringo Tejas asses anyway.



The Alamo was really about having more balls than brains and waiting 24 hours too long.

	13-10-2003 09:07									#29
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It is important to realize that the slavery issue was only one. Had the democratic gov. of mexico lasted, then the Texans woud have had a much harder time justifying their actions, specially since a fair number of neighboring Mexicans did join them: the collapse of the democratic gov, and Santa Ana's rise gave the Texans a great motivator for their revolt.

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quote: Mexico welcomed white settlers initially -- until white slaveowners decided to come in large numbers, and ignore Mexico's abolishment of slavery.

The Mexicans never shut off the spigot... and the fighters at the Alamo were mostly all original settlers.