13-10-2003 10:54									#1
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I want a good game of 30 years war by Jesus Munoz. I'm thinking doubled unit movement and production to get the game to progress quicker. I'm taking either Imperials or Swedish. Who's interested?

Polish - FiGu
Protestants - POTUS
French - El Awrence
Spanish - JMarks
Swedish - Henrik
Imperials - MagyarCrusader
Danish - open

Last edited by MagyarCrusader on 16-10-2003 at 08:18

	13-10-2003 16:59									#2
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Version 2.0?

I'm definatly interested in playing Sweden in a pbem of either version.

His updated version is available here btw:
http://www.geocities.com/indalciv2/

I believe a pbem eventsfile of the second version was made btw. I have it somewhere...

	13-10-2003 17:34									#3
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I am. I'll take Britain.

	13-10-2003 22:00									#4
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Yes, we'll definetly use the updated version. And does v2.3 have a set of pbem events not included in the zip in the link you posted?

El Awrence, there's no British player... only Polish, Protestants, French, Spanish, Swedish, Imperials, and Danish.

	13-10-2003 22:21									#5
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Yeah, the default version uses several events files with no negotiation events. It also has super conquerer units popup from time to time when important battles where fought. I don't think the pbem version does.
I played a pbem of this before (that died) and there was an eventsfile made for that.

	13-10-2003 22:26									#6
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This seems to be it

Attachment: mpevents1.txt
This has been downloaded 7 time(s).

	13-10-2003 22:33									#7
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Damnit, you're right. I confused it with Modern Age.

Give me the French.

	13-10-2003 23:08									#8
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Thanks for posting it. Is the only difference the removal of the triggers that block negotiations? I'm not sure I'm in favor of that. I believe in a limited amount of negotiations, for instance the situation regarding Sweden and Denmark, but I don't want to see the Spanish and Habsburgs waging war on each other.

OK El Richeliu, crush those Hugenot heathens.

	13-10-2003 23:16									#9
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If all are human controlled it's better to have negotiations imho. The Spanish and Imperials will stick together as it's in their interest to do so for a number of reasons, much like in reality (ok so in this game the players probably won't be related but the Austrian and Spanish habsburg branch wasn't totaly integrated).
Dissalowing negotiations would also prevent allies from giving eachother money/techs, etc, btw.

	13-10-2003 23:17									#10
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Found this as well in my 30YW folder:

Attachment: 30ywmp.scn
This has been downloaded 6 time(s).

	13-10-2003 23:44									#11
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give me the poles!

	14-10-2003 00:23									#12
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OK Henrik, you may be right. What is different about that .scn file from the original? And what do you guys think about double move and production?

Civs still open:
Spanish
Danish
Protestants

	14-10-2003 06:10									#13
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Double move sounds a bit excessive, but double production is fine

	14-10-2003 12:24									#14
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I agree with El Awrence about production/movement. Not sure what the changes to the scn file where, if someone could find the old pbem thread it's probably in there.

	15-10-2003 05:33									#15
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quote: No Fighting here, this is the war room!

Just noticed that , how long have you had that as your sig? Stop worrying and love the bomb.

Still got 3 slots open. Spain comes with the benefit of having a civ2 military genius for an ally.

	15-10-2003 05:46									#16
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I will take the Protestants. I have not played this scenario a lot but, I would like to play.

	15-10-2003 20:12									#17
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I've had that signature for a both two months, ever since I bought and watched the dvd version.

Only Denmark and Spain left now...

	15-10-2003 23:57									#18
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I want to get this going. If in 2 days nobody takes the open civs, I'll double up with Spain and someone take Denmark and we'll play like that until another person wants to jump in the game.

	16-10-2003 01:48									#19
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I'll take Spain! Mwahahaha!

or I could study for a test....

nah

	16-10-2003 16:56									#20
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hmm okey, Polish are first?

	16-10-2003 17:26									#21
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In the original the swedes move first I think. But that might've been what was changed in the mp.scn let me check...

	16-10-2003 18:00									#22
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I was mistaken, in both version the Danes are the first to move.
(Though no units have move points on their first move).

	17-10-2003 20:36									#23
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Bump we need a dane!

	20-10-2003 05:38									#24
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Come on, Somebody be Danish.

	20-10-2003 10:18									#25
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Does someone on the protestant camp want to play denmark a few turns until we get a permanent player?

	20-10-2003 11:23									#26
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I will play the Danes temporarily. However, someone better want to play soon!

	20-10-2003 20:34									#27
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Um.... could someone give a link to this scenario? I can't seem to find it and it would be a wise idea of I actually had the scenario to play it.

	21-10-2003 11:49									#28
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http://www.geocities.com/indalciv2/30yw.html
Also remember to download the updates henrik posted.

	22-10-2003 07:47									#29
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Cool, thanks

So who starts off?

	22-10-2003 08:03									#30
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Me. I'll post tonight.