14-10-2003 17:22									#1
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I just received this email from GameStop.com:

quote: Dear Customer, You have signed up to receive release date changes for: Civilization III: Conquests with Bonus CD! http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp...=645419&affid=1 Old Release Date - 10/28/2003 New Release Date - 11/4/2003 Thank you for visiting GameStop.com! The World's Largest Selection of Gaming Products! NOTE: The product release date is the best estimate as to when the product will become available. These dates are subject to change at anytime. GameStop.com is in constant communication with product vendors to provide you with the most accurate release dates possible.

So as of right now, it looks like Conquests will be released a week later ... which I guess isn't really that bad.

	14-10-2003 17:35									#2
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EB is showing an 11/4 ship date now, too.

	14-10-2003 18:10									#3
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Amazon still says October 28/29/30 (.com/.de/.co.uk)

	14-10-2003 18:12									#4
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Amazon will most likely update their site(s) in the next few days.

	14-10-2003 18:37									#5
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Gameplay.co.uk are listing 31 October.

Could it be that the European release will be out first!

	14-10-2003 19:00									#6
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amazon.de now says 27 Nov.

	14-10-2003 19:14									#7
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quote: Originally posted by CerberusIV Gameplay.co.uk are listing 31 October. Could it be that the European release will be out first!

That would be SOOOO l33t!!!

	14-10-2003 19:46									#8
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quote: Originally posted by CerberusIV Gameplay.co.uk are listing 31 October. Could it be that the European release will be out first!

Gameplay also list Half life 2 to be released in november

Whats the deal with this where is the PR statement

	14-10-2003 20:11									#9
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some official statement from Atari would be nice, since the online retailers don't seem to know it either.

	14-10-2003 20:34									#10
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How about this:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showt...195#post1291195

12th post down is from Jeff at Atari.

	14-10-2003 21:23									#11
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I paid for it yesterday at Gamestop and was told 11/5/03.
BTW I got the free Cd right then, so they have them on hand.

	14-10-2003 23:33									#13
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They said that US probably would be a Tuesday and Eu a Friday.
It could Be EU Friday before US Tuesday (but probably not...)

	14-10-2003 23:53									#14
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Well, hopefully the extra week got rid of a few bugs.

Here's to hoping for a more polished product than its predecessor.

	14-10-2003 23:57									#15
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Jeff made it sound like they are not so close as to do a "gone gold" this week. He seems to be saying that they have the things lined up to get it from gold to store in a very short time. It usually takes two or more weeks.

	15-10-2003 00:09									#16
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Some extra buggtracking never hurts. I guess we never will se some bugs, but they will add others for aus You remove two bugs (or some other number) and add one (or any other number here as well ) new. That's how debugging works.

	15-10-2003 01:12									#17
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I am not against them doing what they think is best, only saying that we have not had a gone gold announcement, so any talk of getting C3C in days makes no sense.

	15-10-2003 03:06									#18
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Making a game like Civ is not an easy task, I'm glad most of the posts here encourage patience.

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I'm glad to hear of the 11/4 release date; that gives me more time to actually do some work.

	15-10-2003 07:37									#20
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I can even remember the last time a game product was actually released on the first proposed date. A one week delay seems like just about the bare minimum.

	15-10-2003 16:43									#21
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Civ3 came out "on time", and then we had to wait until the following April (or was it May...) for the game to be playable. I remember playing it for about two weeks when it came out and finally thinking "is that it", and putting it away. Then I came back when 1.17f was released and discovered there was actually a game there.

So I hope they take their time and get it right on the first pass this time.

Then again, if C3C is broken (which I highly doubt) I can always uninstall it and keep playing PTW 1.27f until C3C gets patched.

	15-10-2003 18:01									#22
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You probably won't have to uninstal it to play ptw as it will most likely be a new exe to play conquests.

	15-10-2003 20:15									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Stuie Civ3 came out "on time", and then we had to wait until the following April (or was it May...) for the game to be playable. I remember playing it for about two weeks when it came out and finally thinking "is that it", and putting it away. Then I came back when 1.17f was released and discovered there was actually a game there.

Same here,in addittion I added some graphic / units mods.

Nowdays a game such a strategy one never is really good on first 6 months of life or it needs at least 3/4 patches.

Gunter

	17-10-2003 02:04									#24
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quote: Originally posted by vmxa1 Jeff made it sound like they are not so close as to do a "gone gold" this week. He seems to be saying that they have the things lined up to get it from gold to store in a very short time. It usually takes two or more weeks.

Hi gang,

No official news on release date yet, either in the U.S. or the Rest of World, except to say that we have not gone gold yet. Let's just say that we've saved everyone the trouble of some patches.

Let me also say that from the beginning of this project we were determined to avoid the get-it-out-now situation that occurred with Play the World. And every time we receive a new candidate it resets the clock on our final Quality Assurance team's checklist before we can certify the release.

From a marketing perspective, that's made my job harder -- you may not see us advertised in circulars or in premium placements in the stores so that people know we've shipped, because those have to be bought from the retailers well in advance -- and we're fighting to keep on shelves at some retailers (someone mentioned that we have to rent space in stores -- that's not quite true but there's definitely a lot of horse-trading involved). In the end, you will see a solid release that we at Atari, Firaxis, and Breakaway are all very proud of.

Best,
Jeff Foley
Atari

	17-10-2003 02:46									#25
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Thanks for the info

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Congrats to Firaxis and Infogrames for pushing back the release date

At last, there seems to be a commitment to favor quality over schedule. I hope you guys will restore Civ's reputation with Conquests

	17-10-2003 03:30									#27
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Jeff, just to be sure that there is no confusion, I have no problem with a delay. I am only pointing out to people, that any talk of a date needs to consider that you need a gold version first. Then you need some time to get it on the shelves. How much time is a question of ho one does business, but most will take at least two weeks, not all though.
I have already paid in full, so I am good to go.

	17-10-2003 14:16									#29
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I believe every forumers is happy to listen that the release date is slipped a bit in order to have a stronger product,anyway please be ready to release a comprehensive patch more or less after 1 month and another one after 2 month after the release because for sure some bugs / anomalie will surface and if you are subito ready to listen to expert forumers ( not me ) in order to subito produce 2 patches the game will be the game of year for sure.

Let us know about your disposal to do so

Thanks

Gunter

	17-10-2003 19:48									#30
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they say 2003-10-31 at the site i check release dates but i bet that will change