28-11-2004 19:39									#481
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Maybe they work on a plan to destroy an other team.
That needs time

	28-11-2004 22:05									#482
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What is too much, is too much.

Couldn't Trip play RP's turn? Please??

	29-11-2004 00:17									#483
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* Master Zen can gladly play their turn...

	29-11-2004 13:56									#484
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Togas PMed with a request to play the save. Message tracking says he was last online on Saturday, Nov 27.

	29-11-2004 16:20									#485
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I PMed him also at MZO about 2 days ago since he hangs out over more more than here... but he hasn't been online there either, neither has Arnleos.

	30-11-2004 02:09									#486
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Boring

	30-11-2004 02:46									#487
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I have an idea. Let's start the game all over again WITHOUT Roleplay!

(and Lux...)








(and Lego and GS and Vox and ND....)

	30-11-2004 02:51									#488
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Couldn't we somehow skip their turn? We are waiting for almost one week wihout any good reason, and this is not the first time

	30-11-2004 03:14									#489
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If RP doesn't play the turn within 24 hours of this point (3:14 Mountain time ) then I will skip through their turn.

I will need it sent to me by GOW, of course...

	30-11-2004 03:27									#490
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What about Bigfree or WIA or a dozen other ex-roleplayers.

Their turn cant be too hard to play.

	30-11-2004 03:28									#491
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Save resent to RP and to Trip

	30-11-2004 03:46									#492
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quote: Originally posted by Hot_Enamel What about Bigfree or WIA or a dozen other ex-roleplayers. Their turn cant be too hard to play.

This sounds like a very good idea - both BF and MWIA have ben active in the ISDG forum very recently.

	30-11-2004 04:11									#493
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As posted in another thread, I have found the source of the problem.

My spam filter was sending the emails to bulk. No have no freakin' idea why, as I've been recieving this save for years now and never had this problem. :/

ANYHOW, I told the filter to accept the emails, found the save and transfered it to my inbox, and will play it this evening when I get home from work.

In the future, should this happen again (I hope it does not), toss me a PM or email or whatnot and I'll get to the bottom of things.

--Togas

	30-11-2004 19:40									#494
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[q] email[/]

Eugh, send you an mail about the fact the they've you send you a mail.
That's how spam started in the first place.

	01-12-2004 16:46									#496
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Guys, bad news here.

The save seems to be sick again. Simply loading the save we received from Vox and hitting the end-turn button crashes the game to desktop.

Crashes on my machine, crashes on Kloreep's machine, so it's probably not machine-dependent. I tried this and that during the diplo phase (GS, would you stop sending those unaccepted peace proposals, please? ), but no luck. Whatever I do, ending the turn crashes the game.

I will try few more things, but I am not holding my breath. Can everybody check their trades, please? Peace treaties? Anything unusual?

	01-12-2004 17:05									#497
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We haven't done anything in the active diplo screen for several turns now, just to avoid crashes. And no, we haven't send you any peace proposals either, accepted or unaccepted

There is one strange thing which might have an influence, maybe this is part of the problem. One of our deals was supposed to end last turn, and it didn't. But as said, we haven't entered the active deal screen to check on it...

I surely hope this can be checked, edited, or somehow corrected without us going back a turn... otherwise we'll have to wait another 2 weeks

Just an idea: can this be diplomacy related? We're experiencing problems for a while now. In that case, could it be related to the problems of the ISDG, and could gramphos help, perhaps?

DeepO

	01-12-2004 17:16									#498
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Well, regarding GoW, this turn when I checked the F4 screen for the details on certain treaties, it crashed. Yeah, I know this is the infamous diplo bug but the strange thing is that we didn't have it before.

Also, before the war started we would have some rather wierd trades in the F4 screen (like Iron to Lego IIRC) which of course did not appear in the F2 screen.

Whatever the case, I think we should just skip Lego's turn and play from there...

	01-12-2004 17:17									#499
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quote: Originally posted by DeepO There is one strange thing which might have an influence, maybe this is part of the problem. One of our deals was supposed to end last turn, and it didn't. But as said, we haven't entered the active deal screen to check on it...

Well from my (former) PBEM experience this was not something odd. Certain trades would automatically re-negotiate and others wouldn't and it seems that the option in the preferences screen had little to do with all this.

	01-12-2004 17:42									#500
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen Well from my (former) PBEM experience this was not something odd. Certain trades would automatically re-negotiate and others wouldn't and it seems that the option in the preferences screen had little to do with all this.

Maybe PBEM is different, I'm not so experienced in this. But the deal I'm talking about is not a renegotiable one. It had a fixed expiration date.

DeepO

	01-12-2004 17:44									#501
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen Whatever the case, I think we should just skip Lego's turn and play from there...

While I like the idea, the sad thing is they tried it already

DeepO

	01-12-2004 17:46									#502
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quote: Originally posted by DeepO We haven't done anything in the active diplo screen for several turns now, just to avoid crashes. And no, we haven't send you any peace proposals either, accepted or unaccepted

Well, loading the 1265AD save received from Vox, the first thing I had to respond to was an unaccepted peace offer from GS. Of course I immmediately knew you were giving the war up already, but I thought 'no way, either they send that peace accepted or we will show them - we are holding them by the throat now!'



Kidding. About what I was thinking, I mean. The peace proposal was there. Honest. Trip can attest (the save is available from the last Lego Chronicle entry, Trip).

And it was not the first time - happened at least once before this turn (during the war). I will check what turns we received this offer from you.

	01-12-2004 17:47									#503
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen Also, before the war started we would have some rather wierd trades in the F4 screen (like Iron to Lego IIRC) which of course did not appear in the F2 screen.

This was actually our dyes for your luxury (forgot what exactly it was) deal. It was just showing incorrectly in the F4 trade detail screen. We had it displayed wrong, too.

	01-12-2004 18:15									#504
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Peace treaties: I'm not perfectly sure, but didn't something similar happen to us in the Bobian war, with ND sending us peace each turn? It could be an artifact from checking on you: you need to offer peace momentarily to see certain things.

Before you accept peace, please send me a PM. I don't want to give you any ideas

DeepO

	01-12-2004 20:02									#505
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I had that happen in the PTWDGII - I played the turn for Cake or Death and checked on Monkey's tech status. That required that I go into the diplo screen and click on a peace treaty. I canceled it out and sent the save on... only to receive a PM from a member of Monkey asking if our peace offer was for real. Doh. I'm positive I cancelled it out, but the game apparently doesn't accept that.

-Arrian

	01-12-2004 20:06									#506
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well, sometimes it does accept that, I'm sure. Vox and GoW must have checked on us in those wars as well, but we never got any messages from them

DeepO

	01-12-2004 20:37									#507
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