01-12-2004 20:35									#1
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And the wheel rolls on, and on, and on...

	01-12-2004 21:07									#2
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I sometimes wonder how many posts this game has created, in the public and private fora combined. Seeing that we spent over 1500 posts discussing what was happening with the save...

Anyway, Trip, are you working with Lego on this, or do you intend to become involved? Being the eye has its disadvantages, one of them that you're one of the few people we can turn to to discuss what went wrong. We might be involved in this crash, if you need any info just leave a msg in our forum.

DeepO

	01-12-2004 21:13									#3
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If things aren't "resolved" by tomorrow I'll look into it. Got a paper due at 4pm and a class until 7 and more stuff for tomorrow... so today I have other things to do, sorry.

	01-12-2004 22:42									#4
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Hey, I didn't want to imply you dropped everything and started working on the save asap!


Well, maybe only a little bit

DeepO

	01-12-2004 22:48									#5
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If necessary I can replay the turn and re-send to Lego. It's not too difficult for Vox to re-enact a turn even with the boatload of moves we have to make.

	01-12-2004 22:54									#6
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Rhoth, if you do exactly the same, it's doubtfull anything will change for Lego... there have been cases where the save got corrupted during transport, but in that case Lego wouldn't be able to open it, instead of being unable to close it.

If this is again diplo related, some team (not known which) needs to change that if we want to workaround. Or, someone edits the save to correct whatever is going wrong in the first place, so no workarounds are needed.

DeepO

	01-12-2004 23:19									#7
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The peace treaty sent is a common bug. When you check diplo info for a country you are at war first you start by offering peace. However, even if you cancel it when you leave the screen, the other team gets an unaccepted peace treaty appearing.

	02-12-2004 00:32									#8
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so stop checking diplo info with us

	02-12-2004 01:40									#9
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In the meantime, Vox should replay their turn and send back to Legoland and see if that helps.

	02-12-2004 01:45									#10
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I'll do that later tonight (I'm at work right now). Hopefully it will help, though I'm not sure if it will.

	02-12-2004 01:50									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen The peace treaty sent is a common bug. When you check diplo info for a country you are at war first you start by offering peace. However, even if you cancel it when you leave the screen, the other team gets an unaccepted peace treaty appearing.

We have been getting this bug, every turn. It's only this turn that is hosed. So this bug is probably something different.

	02-12-2004 03:27									#12
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I have just checked all our trade details... there definitely is something strange about our "deals" with GoW. While our GS trade details display "You have no active deals with this opponent.", the corresponding GoW info is different. The box is simply empty, with a label "We Give" visible at the top...

Other than this, there is nothing unusual about our trades. None expiring this turn, not turn before, nor turn after this one.

	02-12-2004 04:37									#13
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Vondrack, it doesn't necessarily have to be with your trades. You're last in line, so any trade might affect it.

Oh, and Tiberius; I don't need to check info, if you.... could give it to us?

DeepO

	02-12-2004 04:56									#14
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quote: Originally posted by vondrack The box is simply empty, with a label "We Give" visible at the top...

I hereby nominate Lego for the PTWDG Charity Award™ as the only team which giveth unto others without expecting nothing in return.

	02-12-2004 08:53									#15
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quote: I hereby nominate Lego for the PTWDG Charity Award™ as the only team which giveth unto others without expecting nothing in return.

We got something in return: dead kittens.

You heartless b*****ds.

	02-12-2004 08:55									#16
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Bah, be glad... the only award we can claim, is that so far we're the team with most failed invasions (being 1, and let's hope it stays at 1 )

DeepO

	02-12-2004 09:47									#17
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Nah, Vox ties GS for that distinction.

	02-12-2004 11:33									#18
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Unfortunately, the replayed save from Vox crashes in the same fashion.

	02-12-2004 11:35									#19
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Bummer. I guess we'll have to get Trip involved now.

	02-12-2004 11:41									#20
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I will see what I can do in the next day or two. I have a major presentation project coming up soon so I don't know how much time I'll have available, but I'll definitely try to get it sorted out by mid-weekend at the latest...

	02-12-2004 11:48									#21
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Thanks, Trip.

	02-12-2004 13:51									#22
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quote: Originally posted by DeepO Bah, be glad... the only award we can claim, is that so far we're the team with most failed invasions (being 1, and let's hope it stays at 1 ) DeepO

quote: Originally posted by Rhothaerill Nah, Vox ties GS for that distinction

We will make it sure to let GS alone win this award

	02-12-2004 17:40									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Tiberius We will make it sure to let GS alone win this award

Don't bother Tibi... there is another reward we'd prefer: the team that succesfully launched an invasion

Hmmm... I forgot about Vox... Sorry, but you're right. Although I still think you were bluffed off Bob, and could have made a serious dent there. It certainly was the only bloodless invasion to date

BTW, there's another one: GoW. But GoW's "invasion" doesn't really count, landing 2 horses within reach of something close to 20 units is suicide, not an invasion. So... I nominate them for being the only team in the PTWDG who suicided an elite unit. Must have been suffering from Pre Traumatic Stress Syndrome.

DeepO

	02-12-2004 22:48									#24
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Yeah, our first "invasion" was a little disaster.... fortunately we got our revenge a number of centuries afterward.

	03-12-2004 01:15									#25
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quote: Originally posted by DeepO Don't bother Tibi... there is another reward we'd prefer: the team that succesfully launched an invasion Hmmm... I forgot about Vox... Sorry, but you're right. Although I still think you were bluffed off Bob, and could have made a serious dent there. It certainly was the only bloodless invasion to date

I wouldn't know. I didn't actually join Vox until after the GS invasion failed.

	03-12-2004 02:34									#26
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Rhoth: a lifetime subscription to The Glory of News™ and GoW Cable TV if you guys open a "Northern Front"...

...think about it!!!

	03-12-2004 02:35									#27
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A front more or less... not sure we'd be able to notice... we seem to have problems everywhere...

	03-12-2004 02:46									#28
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Problem numero uno being that the save is, once again, ****ed up.

Arg!

-Arrian

	03-12-2004 04:50									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen Rhoth: a lifetime subscription to The Glory of News™ and GoW Cable TV if you guys open a "Northern Front"... ...think about it!!!

Hey, we were never offered a subscription to your cable TV? I might be interested to know what exactly let Togas' spam filter decide your mail was ...inappropriate...

DeepO

	03-12-2004 06:05									#30
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quote: Originally posted by DeepO Hey, we were never offered a subscription to your cable TV? I might be interested to know what exactly let Togas' spam filter decide your mail was ...inappropriate... DeepO

I think it was an intended slight. Clearly they value the possibility of a Voxian ally far greater than that of their putative allies. Perhaps you should consider a deal with the Blockheads first ... they might be able to offer you something more than cable TV - Satellite!