17-10-2003 18:08									#1
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I was reading another thread (something to do with Malaysians and the hated zionist conspiracy) and this question came up. So, out of interest I thought I'd do a poll, so we all know.

So, who do neo nazi's hate the most out of the four groups listed.

jews
blacks
catholics
homosexuals

*yes this was meant to be a poll, no I don't know what went wrong.

	17-10-2003 18:09									#2
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I guess that makes me a neo-nazi.

	17-10-2003 18:11									#4
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What happened to the promised six groups?

	17-10-2003 18:13									#5
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quote: Originally posted by MikeH They really hate people who can't create polls.

I'm flattered, their hatred is welcome. However I'd preffer them to hate me on merit, and not just because I bodged the poll.

	17-10-2003 18:17									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Drake Tungsten What happened to the promised six groups?

Interesting that you should ask that, see I was sure they hated more groups of people but when I actually tried to recall... I couldnt think of them *****ing an moaning about anybody else... Muslims maybe but, surely the two groups have alot in common.... Women maybe but... does wanting woment to just have lots of kids and do house-work all the time count as actual hatred? I don't know where they stand on Orientals, I seem to remember they liked Japanese people but, hey... who doesn't like Japanese people right? So I dunno, feel free to add your own two suggestions.

	17-10-2003 18:20									#7
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Moslems and neo-Nazis have a lot in common? Worst troll ever.

	17-10-2003 18:22									#8
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Let's be honest - they hate themselves and seek to deaden this sense of personal dissatisfaction by nullifying the achievements and advantages of other people. Basically, these people are a threat to them by being essentially better, for the reason that they are no them.

	17-10-2003 18:22									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo Moslems and neo-Nazis have a lot in common? Worst troll ever.

Well, they both go on about jewish people and zionists a HECK of a lot, I mean... have you ever listened to either? If a two hour rant against Isreal and the evil zionist conspiracy isn't alot then... call me a troll and cross right over my bridge billy goat, right on over.

	17-10-2003 18:26									#10
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Almost all of my family is Moslem, asshat. Some of the most tolerant people I know are Moslems.

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quote: Originally posted by duke o' york Let's be honest - they hate themselves and seek to deaden this sense of personal dissatisfaction by nullifying the achievements and advantages of other people. Basically, these people are a threat to them by being essentially better, for the reason that they are no them.

I don't think any of the four groups are better then anything, I mean there is no basis described in those groups to hang any kind of betterness on, that's the kind of irrational attitude the neozies take. But I think I understand what you're trying to say.

	17-10-2003 18:31									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo Almost all of my family is Moslem, asshat. Some of the most tolerant people I know are Moslems.

Yeah yeah. Religion is what people beleive it to be, and there are alot of muslims out there who beleive their religion is about hating jews (and more an more, America too). People often say 'tolerance' when they mean 'put up with and not attempt to kill at this time'

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quote: but, hey... who doesn't like Japanese people right?

I don't...

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	17-10-2003 18:36									#14
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quote: Yeah yeah. Religion is what people beleive it to be, and there are alot of muslims out there who beleive their religion is about hating jews (and more an more, America too). People often say 'tolerance' when they mean 'put up with and not attempt to kill at this time'

How many Moslems have you actually talked to about this? Again, some of the most tolerant people I know are Moslems (and I almost certainly know them better than any you've talked to). Saying that Moslems have a lot in common with neo-Nazis is ignorant bigotry.

	17-10-2003 18:41									#15
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Hey look, people who's identity is based on the hatred of a certain group have alot in common an that's that. Why do I fly the flag of Iran on my Avatar? Because I think it's a good thing for there to be a country in the ME that America is reluctant to screw with (especially after the Shah they imposed on that country) and that can counterbalance the State of Isreal.

As for the theology of Islam... religous bullmatter, like all the others.... as for Islamic hatred of Judaism... hey... that's what religion is about, hatred and judgmentalism and a deeply held rejection of those outside the faith.

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	17-10-2003 18:43									#16
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DT, I take your point. But all those nations would probably like Japanese people too if Japanese people hadn't screwed it up by invading, colonising, brutalising an raping them... talk about sending negative signals.

	17-10-2003 18:44									#17
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You have absolutely no idea of what the religion is about.

	17-10-2003 18:47									#18
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I thought he summed it up pretty well.

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And how many Moslems do you know well?

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It's as bad as Christianity.

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	17-10-2003 18:51									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo And how many Moslems do you know well?

Does the winner get a prize?

Oh cool!!

I know 2. Do I win? DO I?

	17-10-2003 18:51									#23
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and drake:

but problem_child...
if you're working from preconceptions which are wrong, then your conclusions are bound to be wrong.

equating muslims with neo-nazism is generalizing the behavior of a group onto an entire religion. the religion has been hijacked by demagogues who gain media attention--partly because they are so foreign to america, thereby exotic and new, and because they preach a message of hate. in actuality, they are more akin to phelps or robertson than your regular run-on-the-mill christian.

and as for everybody loving the japanese... you've obviously never been to asia or talked to anybody of asian ancestry in regards to world war 2 and before. and you seem to miss out on all the protests that seem to go on when koizumi visits a certain temple, even though every protest is mentioned on cnn.

*make that east asian ancestry. they never got as far as south asia.

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QC, yup... that annoying ticky box is it, like when they send you spam because you DIDN'T untick some pixel sized ticky box. I hate them so much.

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quote: Originally posted by problem_child I don't think any of the four groups are better then anything, I mean there is no basis described in those groups to hang any kind of betterness on, that's the kind of irrational attitude the neozies take. But I think I understand what you're trying to say.

It's all very admirable and scientific to try and keep things objective, but this is real life, and not a collection of figures on a blackboard. You are going to be prejudiced against certain people for certain reasons or you're not human. I would like to think that my hatred of neo-nazis based on their ill-considered system of beliefs (something they have actively chosen)is somehow worth more than their hatred of ethnic minorities based on the colour of their skin (something over which they have no choice).
If white thugs want to fight black thugs, and both are motivated by their hatred of the others' race then I'm fine with that, and am sure that society would be a far better place if fewer people went around carrying their standards of racial hatred. Sure, kill yourselves. I hate them because of their hatred of different skin colours, so on one level I am as bad as they are, but at least I'd be able to explain and defend my position to a neutral (say an alien or whatever). Just because one person of a different racial group took a job that you went for does not give you licence to hate this entire group.

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quote: Does the winner get a prize? Oh cool!! I know 2. Do I win? DO I?

You get David Duke's book on how he loves Moslems.

	17-10-2003 18:56									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo And how many Moslems do you know well?

Hey, for me- the Old Country is fifty pecent muslim, I know about muslims and what they beleive, and I know about Christianity and what that's about too. Both groups are most passionate about what they despise... that tends to be other people who don't subsribe to their belief systems.

	17-10-2003 18:58									#28
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You didn't answer the question. And so you also believe Christians have a lot in common with neo-Nazis?

	17-10-2003 18:59									#29
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I see your 2 Muslims FP, and I raise you 3 Sikhs!

	17-10-2003 19:01									#30
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quote: and as for everybody loving the japanese... you've obviously never been to asia or talked to anybody of asian ancestry in regards to world war 2 and before. and you seem to miss out on all the protests that seem to go on when koizumi visits a certain temple, even though every protest is mentioned on cnn.

Really though, the Japanese don't have it that bad. Only about a fifth of the world's population despises them; it's better than being an American, a Paki or a Turk.