18-10-2003 04:54									#1
	Official - University Negotiations Full PM-box? Change here!

Basically we want ecological engineering. Being able to build boreholes and condensors will be a huge bonus for us, and I'm willing to trade any of the techs we currently have.

The techs we currently have on offer are.
Loyalty, and applied physics.

However, I'm willing to offer to leapfrog with them. Eg, they give us ecological engineering, we give them environmental economics.

Octavian can you send the diplomatic message.

	18-10-2003 05:31									#2
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Kody says:
I've got an idea
Voltaire says:
do tell
Kody says:
we want ecological engineering from the university right?
Kody says:
the university wants to start trading with someone other than the pirates
Voltaire says:
indeed
Kody says:
we offer drone and cycon comm links
Kody says:
and all our techs in exchange for ecological engineering
Kody says:
also the agreement that we don't trade it to other factions
Voltaire says:
hmm
Voltaire says:
it's worth a shot
Voltaire says:
but does it not seem too desperate?
Kody says:
why desperate?
Kody says:
well we could offer drone and cycon comm links
Kody says:
and tech leap frogging with the university
Voltaire says:
hmm
Voltaire says:
let me put it this way
Kody says:
you see "all our techs" is applied and loyalty
Voltaire says:
yes
Voltaire says:
we just need to rephrase it
Kody says:
whereas leap frogging is environmental economics
Kody says:
so all our techs is actually less
Kody says:
but it makes it sound like more
Voltaire says:
so you want to attempt to get ecological engineering without giving the Uni environvmental economics?
Kody says:
yeah
Kody says:
if they fall for the "all our techs" line
Voltaire says:
indeed
Voltaire says:
well it's worth a shot
Voltaire says:
we have nothing to lose
Voltaire says:
if the university chose not to trade we're researching ecological engineering anyway
Kody says:
yeap
Kody says:
and the no-trade agreement is better for the university as they can trade it somewhere else
Kody says:
also it'll give us an excuse to delay giving the cycon university comm frequency
Voltaire says:
true
Voltaire says:
it's mutualy beneficial
Voltaire says:
hopefuly the uni go for it
Voltaire says:
if they do then we will have gained much

Last edited by Voltaire on 19-10-2003 at 07:28

	19-10-2003 03:33									#3
	Full PM-box? Change here!

Greetings,

It looks like I have authorisation to proceed with this trade. The hive is
interested in ecological engineering. We know that you have already
started it, and knowing the university's tech trade it should only be a
few years before you finish.

The hive is willing to offer all the comm links it has, and all the techs
in exchange for ecological engineering.

Cycon Comm link
Drone Comm link
Loyalty
Applied physics

This will provide you prerequsites to research High Energy Chemistry and
Intellectual Integrity. Also it will allow you to open diplomatic
relations to the remaining other human factions.

The drones and the pirates have done well off the trades we have offered
them. We hope that you will find this trade benificial for you.

We would also like to mention that the planetary council may be coming up
in perhaps 10 years time and when it is your time to vote you will
remember your good dealings with the Hive.