19-10-2003 04:05									#1
	MSN - Keeping Pirate diplomancy Alive Got spare money?

John says:
hey chairman
John says:
when was the last diplomatic message we sent to the pirates
Voltaire says:
Hello
John says:
sorry I'm always like this
John says:
starting off immediately with a question
Voltaire says:
No no
Voltaire says:
Thank you for rescuing me from a terrebly dull phone conversation
Voltaire says:
I'm uncertain
John says:
heh
Voltaire says:
It was a while back
John says:
well it's time to send a message
Voltaire says:
perhaps a week
John says:
we still need their vote so I suggest writing a message saying something reassuring
John says:
don't bring up the vote yet
Voltaire says:
Alright
Voltaire says:
I'll send some
Voltaire says:
words of reassurance
John says:
hrmm can you think of any information we can give them
John says:
something low value
Voltaire says:
telling them that we sympathise with them on the CyCon situation
John says:
no no
John says:
that's too obvious
John says:
they know we're strongly for the cycon
John says:
would it be too obvious?
Voltaire says:
I'll be subtle about it
John says:
cool
John says:
what information can we give them that wouldn't be very important
John says:
but would show are goodwill
John says:
our goodwill
Voltaire says:
What do you have in mind?
John says:
You know I was thinking, Googlie seems to only make forums for alliances that appear to be working out.
John says:
so subtlely that's leaking information out
John says:
oh
John says:
hrmm
John says:
well I don't have anything in mind
John says:
I'm not sure what information we could give them
Voltaire says:
I will compose something
Voltaire says:
We need to send some sort of offer though
Voltaire says:
It will look suspicious if we just contact them out of the blue
John says:
we could offer something for planetary economics
Voltaire says:
Since we haven't done that before
Voltaire says:
True
John says:
yeah but if they get suspicious so what
John says:
this time we really aren't up to anything *lol*
Voltaire says:
lol
John says:
just making sure our relations don't fall to pieces that all
Voltaire says:
i would like to have an offer on the table before i go to them
Voltaire says:
for that we'd need approval
Voltaire says:
it can even be a bad offer
Voltaire says:
since it doesn't matter if the pirates accept it or reject it
Voltaire says:
since all we need to do is get our message accorss
John says:
nah bad offers give you bad credit rating
John says:
it's too early for council votes do you think?
John says:
maybe we offer to name a base in their honour
John says:
as a gift
John says:
I think it's been 2 weeks
Voltaire says:
hmm
John says:
because we had the whole university thing before we had the pirate thing
John says:
maybe say we're afirming our pact with the pirates
Voltaire says:
did you not suggest we wait until the drones increase their population?
John says:
that we intend to keep the 35 year pledge
John says:
yeah
John says:
well if we can all the factions to agree to support us as governer
John says:
get all the factions
John says:
then I would be willing to go forward
John says:
since if one person drops out
John says:
we still win
Voltaire says:
but we cannot guarantee that when the vote comes that they will support us
John says:
okay basically tell them that we still intend to keep our 35 year pledge.
Voltaire says:
IMO the only way of doing that would be to make ourselves appear to be the neutral party
John says:
naming a base after them is just too obvious
Voltaire says:
yes
Voltaire says:
and it wouldn't work, it's not really all that attractive
John says:
*agree*
Voltaire says:
they'd want credits or tech
John says:
we could buy a landmark off them
John says:
actually we can't
John says:
our budget is rather tight in the next few years
John says:
just remembered that we go down to 0 ECs in 2145 or something
John says:
umm ask about the PEG
Voltaire says:
PEG?
Voltaire says:
oh
John says:
and say we're still commited to keeping our 35 year pledge
Voltaire says:
planetary energy grid
John says:
Planetary energy grid
John says:
ask if they might be willing to do ecological engineering for the PEG
Voltaire says:
why ask about the PEG?
John says:
because we would like to build it if we could
Voltaire says:
yes
Voltaire says:
hmm
Voltaire says:
the problem we run into asking them about it is that they might build it simply because we want it
Voltaire says:
to keep it away from us
John says:
*shrug*
John says:
so
John says:
they've just about got that SP in the bag
Voltaire says:
it seems that in that regard inaction may be the beat action
John says:
trust me if we don't ask they'll build it anyway
John says:
unless we decide to probe them for it
John says:
but their bases are so far away
Voltaire says:
hmm
Voltaire says:
alright
Voltaire says:
i will need to figure out how to phrase this
John says:
also by closing a trade with the pirates with ecological engineering we're undermining the university's tech lead
John says:
well you've done well actually for most of the other messages that required fluff
John says:
so you can probably just send it after you've finished
John says:
as for planetary votes, if we get everyone to agree to support us, if any of them drops out
Voltaire says:
I will post it and let other take a look
Voltaire says:
just in case
Voltaire says:
alright
John says:
then we still win
Voltaire says:
let's sum this up
Voltaire says:
we need to reassure the pirates of our pact
John says:
yeap
Voltaire says:
in order to secure the planetary council vote
John says:
say that we keep our promises
Voltaire says:
we want planetary economics from them
Voltaire says:
and PEG if possible
John says:
no we want the PEG
Voltaire says:
alright
John says:
planetary economics isn't important for a while
Voltaire says:
alright
Voltaire says:
we're offering environmental enginnering in exchange?
John says:
for PEG
Voltaire says:
alright
Voltaire says:
anything else?
John says:
just mainly to say we're still interested in keeping this alliance alive
Voltaire says:
alright
Voltaire says:
I will compose it
Voltaire says:
post it
Voltaire says:
and send it off
John says:
the war faction doing the best at trading and building
Voltaire says:
I will PM it to all the important PEACE members
Voltaire says:
just to be sure they receive it
John says:
PM to their captain
John says:
and use the old email
John says:
we should have congratulate makluka on his/her election
Voltaire says:
her
John says:
but it seems rather late to be doing that now
Voltaire says:
we can mention it
John says:
darn it I forgot to mention it
John says:
I was planning on, but instead got caught up with meeting the university
Voltaire says:
it's a small matter, though we have let our communications with PEACE lapse
Voltaire says:
then again that may be a good sign on both ends
Voltaire says:
that the pirates are content with the pact
John says:
not really
Voltaire says:
often times heave contact might be a sign of manipulation, or at least an attempt at it
John says:
I asked them to give me an offer a while ago
Voltaire says:
i'm perhaps being paranoid
John says:
they never replied back

Last edited by Kody on 19-10-2003 at 05:55

	19-10-2003 04:10									#2
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Voltaire says:
well hopefuly this will break them out of their shell
John says:
hrmm we should mention the cycon thingy
John says:
basically acknowledge it happened
John says:
but don't really say nothing about it
John says:
sort of make it clear the hive doesn't care either way
John says:
well not in those words
Voltaire says:
yes i know what you're getting at
John says:
but say, it's okay, what happen doesn't change anything
Voltaire says:
i will work it in
Voltaire says:
not directly
Voltaire says:
but make a passing mention to it
Voltaire says:
so it doesn't appear as though we're ignoring the subject
John says:
*nod*
John says:
okay that's all I can think of
John says:
which is alot more than I thought we were going to send
Voltaire says:
i will not make it overly long
John says:
I originally started this MSN thinking we'll just send a message saying the hive is still willing to communicate if the pirate feel the need.
Voltaire says:
it will most likely be about two paragraphs
John says:
cool
Voltaire says:
lol
John says:
concise too
Voltaire says:
oh
Voltaire says:
before i forget
John says:
yes?
Voltaire says:
can you also please post this conversation on the forums
Voltaire says:
just so i have reference when writting this
Voltaire says:
i don't want to miss out of anything
John says:
heh way ahead of you
Voltaire says:

Last edited by Kody on 19-10-2003 at 05:56

	19-10-2003 05:37									#3
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quote: My heart walks, searching for something exciting that will passionately sway the beating in my chest

If the intent is to discourage others from slogging thru the post, it's succeeding

What's wrong with Voltaire or Chairman?

G.

	19-10-2003 05:56									#4
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Sorry

	19-10-2003 07:10									#5
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To PEACE:

quote: Greetings Captain Makahlua, I would like to congratulate your on your democratic ascension to the leadership of PEACE. The Central Continuing Committee has high hopes for replenishing relations with PEACE and entering into a new era of prosperity for both our factions. In order to usher in this new era of relations the Human Hive wishes to propose a trade offer to PEACE. We wish to acquire Adaptive Economic, in order to construct the Planetary Energy Grid, in exchange we offer you Environmental Engineering. The reason for this trade would be that it benefits both factions by amalgamating our research efforts. Furthermore it weakens the grip on technological advance that the University holds, and would allow both our factions (through tech trade) to become less dependant on research factions. May the Human Hive and PEACE exist in friendship and brotherhood for a thousand years! Voltaire, Chairman of the Central Continuing Committee

	19-10-2003 07:57									#6
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Is this trade actually necessary or will it just slow down our research efforts?

- Rokossovky

	19-10-2003 08:01									#7
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quote: Many thanks, the 'hot seat' maybe our highest office, but it's not without both perks and perils I've passed your note on to the Captain's Council and either I or Ambassador Flubber will let you know if that deal is agreeable to the fleet -Seraph Makhalua PEACE Head of Fleet Ops

	19-10-2003 08:26									#8
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It's worth it, if we can get free energy banks in every city, and 25% to all our stockpile.

Huge bonus, the way the hive stockpiles.