20-10-2003 10:36									#1
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quote: Kody says: it's just an idea Kody says: do you think people would go for that? Nukes for EVERYONE! says: Hmm Nukes for EVERYONE! says: I think so Voltaire says: it will prove to be interesting if it can be setup Kody says: sell it as something to do while we're between turns of the real game Kody says: and make a stricter time limit on the new one Kody says: I thought it would be good for the hive Voltaire says: it might be worth a shot Voltaire says: but are we not spreading ourselves too thin? Voltaire says: three games... Kody says: because jamski and rokossovky are always itching to play the turn Voltaire says: granted not all are involved in the ACPSG Kody says: well sell as a team game, but more informal Kody says: like sort of like the arcade in the bar Kody says: and each team is having a friendly competition Kody says: so we're not spending heaps of time debating every decision Kody says: and planning lots of moves Kody says: just oh that ACDGarcade is up Kody says: so they open it up move the units and stuff around then save and pass it on Voltaire says: ah Voltaire says: i see Voltaire says: that could work Kody says: just something to do when people get frustrated over the slow turnage Kody says: and since it's informal Kody says: the newer members are play the turns Kody says: and the better members can throw pointers Kody says: because currently we're too afraid of losing to let a brand new member play a turn Voltaire says: yes i see your point Voltaire says: we should bring it up with googlie Voltaire says: ask him to propose the idea Kody says: so we should call it the Speed game Voltaire says: it will carry more weight if it comes form him Kody says: maybe give bonus points for who can play the fastest Voltaire says: lol, that would be interesting Voltaire says: and it would provide for some reather interesting games Kody says: yeah Kody says: because whoever is online Kody says: and part of a team can play Voltaire says: brilliant Kody says: so all those inactive members can do something Voltaire says: and furthermore it would provide some of our more afluent members another place to SPAM Kody says: and it gives something for new players to do Voltaire says: it can replace the rec room threads Voltaire says: it can essentialy be an entire forum for relaxation Voltaire says: a sort of ACDG lounge Kody says: I guess Voltaire says: is googlie online? Kody says: well we can use the current ACDG resources Kody says: nope Kody says: just PM him Voltaire says: hmm, he lives in vancouver if i recall correctly Voltaire says: so he's 1 hour behind me Kody says: the main idea is everyone is allowed to play their team's game whenever they like Voltaire says: alright Voltaire says: i'll PM him Kody says: and the first person to play it Kody says: or online and sees it Voltaire says: I'll also post this conversation into the hive forums to get some feedback Kody says: posts his/her team's turn Voltaire says: when we're done of course Kody says: it would stop some of the eliteish Kody says: eliteism Voltaire says: lol Kody says: I mean alot of our current decisions are just too important for someone that doesn't have time to trawl through all our posts Kody says: and explaning everything takes so much time Kody says: so new members feel they can't contribute Kody says: but with this thing Kody says: everyone can contribute, and the idea is to get fast turnage, also to help newer players learn Kody says: technically it will be possible to get a few turns done in a day Kody says: because most teams will have members on at different hours Kody says: and usually there's at least one person around 80% of the time Kody says: Speed team PBEM Voltaire says: you in our case Voltaire says: oh sorry Voltaire says: misunderstood Kody says: well I would perfer everyone others to do it Kody says: but speed PBEM won't have the long delays Voltaire says: yes Voltaire says: in fact Voltaire says: i would expect that one turn could be done a day Voltaire says: if not more Voltaire says: lol Kody says: yup Voltaire says: it might be over long before this one Kody says: yeah Kody says: and the main rule is anyone in your team is allowed to play Kody says: and you can't complain if they make a mistake Voltaire says: ah Voltaire says: it would be rather interesting Kody says: it's meant to be fun Kody says: and fast Voltaire says: which is the main point Kody says: and the winner is the one with the fastest turnage Kody says: that is either still around when someone wins Kody says: normally Kody says: or when the game comes down to 3 factions Kody says: the fastest of those last three factions wins Kody says: so it encourges fast play Kody says: actually hrmm Voltaire says: i just realised something Kody says: yeah? Voltaire says: pretty soon Planet is going to become a multipolar world Voltaire says: sort of like Earth during the Cold War Kody says: hehehe Voltaire says: except Voltaire says: the two superpowers will be cooperating Kody says: lol Voltaire says: and they're both communist Kody says: nah the drones aren't communist are they? Kody says: not sure of definition Voltaire says: the drones? more so then we're suppose to be Voltaire says: we're totalitarian Voltaire says: they're the supposed communist Kody says: the drones are running demo Voltaire says: exactly Voltaire says: that's what communism is all about, in theory Voltaire says: demo/planned Voltaire says: would be real communism Kody says: oh Voltaire says: police state/planned is what most of the worlds communist states have been

	20-10-2003 20:23									#2
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OK - the ACDG "speed game"

Some questions pre set-up

1. Should it be smac only, to alow for everyone to get a chance to play the turn

2. Presumably the factions would all be teamed from the current teams - and play the current faction (within smac limitations) where possible (eg, Hive will play Hive, Uni play Uni, Pirates play Gaians, Drones play Morgan and Cycon play as the PKs)

3. CMN advanced start (maybe 4 cp's, 3 scouts, a unity foil) to give something to do in those early turns

4. Coop victory disabled

5. Any other specific rules - see:



for some of the things that could be done in a scenario start - eg no tech trading, no Council, etc etc.

6. AI or no AI (and if so, how strong - the Spartans and Believers could be made into a really strong aggressive combination)

G.

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	21-10-2003 04:03									#3
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1. Should it be smac only, to alow for everyone to get a chance to play the turn

Sounds like an idea, if getting SMAX is big issue for some people, then smac would be better.

2. Presumably the factions would all be teamed from the current teams - and play the current faction (within smac limitations) where possible (eg, Hive will play Hive, Uni play Uni, Pirates play Gaians, Drones play Morgan and Cycon play as the PKs)

Let each team decide. But if two teams want the same faction, preference is given to the team that is already playing that faction.

3. CMN advanced start (maybe 4 cp's, 3 scouts, a unity foil) to give something to do in those early turns

I don't see any disagreement

4. Coop victory disabled

Heh, well that's probably a good idea otherwise alliances in the real ACDG will spread over into the speed game.

5. Any other specific rules - see:

No planetary council - because planetary councils slow things down.

6. AI or no AI (and if so, how strong - the Spartans and Believers could be made into a really strong aggressive combination)

Strong AI would be nice. Not so strong that they plaster the humans. Remmeber that if you turn cooperative victory off humans won't be teaming up against the AI.

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I think the main issue is that it's made clear that the first person that sees the turn and is able should play it. Also if there's any adjustments that you can do that will reduce the time it takes to play the turns then it would be great if you can do it.

Maybe we should have a rule against email communication between humans. That will stop the slow down of diplomancy I think.

	21-10-2003 06:05									#4
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The stage is set (see the rec Commons) - am working on the map and set-up right now

(I assigned factions - that'll speed things up)

G.

	21-10-2003 06:54									#5
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Can we also sign a form agreeing that we are no longer honour bound in this game and that is in no way a reflection of our usual playing style?

	22-10-2003 14:00									#6
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