21-10-2003 00:19									#1
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No seriously, what is there?

It seems weird that I haven't visited it. But I'm usually into more scenic destination than man made ones.

I may see the statue of liberty, maybe the WTC. I would like to go to the top of the World Trade Center.


What else am I missing? I'm not particularly interested in broadway. I would like to participate in a mob beating though. That would be interesting

	21-10-2003 00:27									#2
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident No seriously, what is there? It seems weird that I haven't visited it. But I'm usually into more scenic destination than man made ones. I may see the statue of liberty, maybe the WTC. I would like to go to the top of the World Trade Center.

When i still lived in NYC, or was home for the summer, whenever i had anyone in from out of town, I always took them to the WTC to get the birds eye view of the city, and cause it was such a cool place.

	21-10-2003 00:28									#3
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Hmm let's see there's lots of things to see if you have never been there. I liked Soho and China Town (but then again we don't have china towns, so it was new to me). Learn the subway, best way to move, but can be confusing at first when you're learning the map.

Empire State building is ok, but nothing spectacular. Great view though, took some nice pictures and the elevator is so fast it must be evil. BTW they don't confiscate if you're carrying booze bottles, they take it away but they give it back to you, the guards that is. Beware, they threatened to drink it, so make sure you check you're getting every bottle back!

What else.. lots and lots of things.. tough to say. Well check out manhattan obviously, and if you like hockey, there might be few seats left in Rangers game.. well at least we were able to score few tickets even with LATE notice, but then you need to be kind of creative.

Nightlife, depends what you're looking for. Centrofly was disappointment, but not horrible it was ok. But there are lots of places to go if that's not your cup of tea.

Be sure to check out who's in NY, I had the worse setback of my life there. I was watching television back at the hotel room after walking 49999 miles that day, just to see two playmates of the year were signing autographs in Virgin store, only few blocks from the hotel room I was in, and yes I was late, and NO there was no huge lines! DAAAAAAAAMN what a MISTAKE!

Lots of good places to eat, but I guess I don't know them, the locals might give you few hints but I guess you get good food from many places, they're everywhere.

	21-10-2003 00:29									#4
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The Statue of Liberty, ground zero, central park, the numerous museums, Harlem, the Manhatten skyline, and numerous other points of interest. Get a copy of the Let's Go travel guide and you'll get the inside scoupe.

Also the NY night life could possibly be the hottiest in the world.

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Also if you're looking for company, the best place I guess for out of towner after hard day if you're too tired to go out is the hotels ice machines.. there all the tourist chicks come to get some ice to have hot lesbian sex with the ice cubes, so be ready to have smooth one liners ready. Expect hot sex with 10 German girls, or if you fail at that, tune into E! and hope for Ali Landris wild on some exotic place and hope to catch few boobies.

	21-10-2003 00:33									#6
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Oeridn, no way it is the hottest.. it's ok, but no way in earth is it the hottest. Well I guess that depends what kind of parties you're looking for.

	21-10-2003 00:34									#7
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You could spend a month there and not possibly see everything good.

The Empire State Building. Beautiful old building.
Central Park and Central Park Zoo.
Macy's.
Metropolitan Museum of Art
The Guggenheim.
Museum of Natural History.
Some of Trump's buildings are kind of cool in their opulence.

	21-10-2003 00:39									#8
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Museum of Modern Art.
The Whitney Museum of American Art.
The Brooklyn Museum.

And while we're in Brooklyn, the Brooklyn Botanical Gardens. Coney Island. The Chassidic Jews of Borough Park and/or Williamsburgh.

Leaving Brooklyn, the Bronx Zoo.

The Brooklyn Bridge. The Staten Island Ferry.

	21-10-2003 00:44									#9
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Chinatown.

Fraunces Tavern (where washington said farewell to his officers)

New York Stock Exchange.

South Street Seaport (way too commercialized, but still)

New York Public Library.

The United Nations. (if youre going to SOL, might as well see both WOW's )

Battery Park (where you have to go for the boat to the SOL anyway)

Greenwich Village

Rockefeller Center.

Store on 5th avenue, roughly from 49th St to the Park.

	21-10-2003 00:50									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Oerdin ground zero

Beats me why anyone would want to see it. It's an empty, depressing hole in the ground.

	21-10-2003 00:51									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Oeridn, no way it is the hottest.. it's ok, but no way in earth is it the hottest. Well I guess that depends what kind of parties you're looking for.

When did you visit NYC Pekka?

	21-10-2003 00:59									#12
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If you go to Ground Zero, you can buy a nifty t-shirt commemorating that solemn occasion.

	21-10-2003 01:04									#13
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Caligastia, If I told you, I'd had to kill you.

	21-10-2003 01:14									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia Beats me why anyone would want to see it. It's an empty, depressing hole in the ground.

Well if, like me, youre an ex-New Yorker, who spent lots of time at the WTC, its hard not to go there.

I also think lots of Americans want to go there to reflect on what happened. The way we go to the USS Arizona memorial, or to Gettysburg. The way some people go to Auschwitz.

	21-10-2003 01:17									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Caligastia Beats me why anyone would want to see it. It's an empty, depressing hole in the ground.

alternatively go see

1. The Aircraft carrier Intrepid - still docked on the West side, I believe.

2. Brooklyn Navy Yard.

3. Prospect Park - part of the site of the battle of Long Island.

4. While you're in New York, take a side trip up to West Point.

	21-10-2003 02:26									#16
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I live in NYC, but thanks anyway.

	21-10-2003 02:26									#17
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quote: Originally posted by Pekka Caligastia, If I told you, I'd had to kill you.

No, you'd have to kill me.

	21-10-2003 05:23									#18
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Macy's? we have that where I live

NYC public library? We have libraries where I live as well. I have seen and even read books

Nightlife? Overrated at best. We have plenty of nightclubs where I live. Maybe if they had something like Studio 54 used to be- but I would never be able to get into a place like that

	21-10-2003 05:31									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Dissident NYC public library? We have libraries where I live as well. I have seen and even read books

Have you seen or even read a Gutemberg original bible? Pretty impressive sight...

--Kon--

	21-10-2003 05:47									#20
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There's too many things to see, and you'll eventually get frustrated trying to choose. Stay in your hotel room and watch tv.

	21-10-2003 06:07									#21
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Walk every day until your feet hurt, then rest on the subway and walk again.
Places to walk through:
- Brooklyn Bridge (a quick crossing, but well worth it - perhaps the skyline is less impressive now)
- Alphabet City: Check out Ave A, near Tompkins Sq Park.
- Museums: Guggenheim (for the building if nothing else), The Met (for Medieval armor and the building), PS1 (in Long Island City) if there is an event on at the time, it draws a great crowd.
- Soho, Chinatown, Little Italy, Greenwich Village, etc; Maybe find some walks in your guidebook.
- Upper East: 5th, Park and/or Madison from low 80's down - this is for pampered-people-spotting, which becomes dull soon, so you just head to Central Park to recover.
- Midtown (e.g Park Ave, heading North from Grand Central) - the scale here is stunning.

For eating suggestions, don't ask us, ask Zagats.

Shop for cheap, good clothes at any H&M store that you stumble across. Eat the freshest bagels you'll find, even if you just stumble into the first bagel shop you see.

	21-10-2003 06:09									#22
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...and if you want to see Times Square for the sake of ticking that off, just hit and run. If you must take a walk there, head for Rockefeller Center to check out the ice rink area and the Met Museum Shop (for excellent selection of gifts, etc).

	21-10-2003 10:45									#23
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Ride the subway all day long. You'll see the most interesting people.

Oh yeah, and GCS, Central Park, Soho, Greenwich, Chinatown, and the Guggenheim are all nice too.

	21-10-2003 11:04									#24
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The Museum of Natural History is my personal favorite.

	21-10-2003 11:06									#25
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I missed that one, and I sorely regret it.

	21-10-2003 19:48									#26
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hi ,

take a ferry ride to staten island , great for taking sky-line pics of manhattan

have a nice day

	22-10-2003 03:16									#27
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Didn't do that either. After seeing The Ring, I ain't getting on another ferry.

	22-10-2003 07:52									#28
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Hmm, what to see in NYC?

Lets start with museums:

Met, MOMA, two Guggenheims, American History Museum, Hayden Planeterium, Museum of TV and Radio, Brooklyn Museum, Queens Museum, Museum of the Moving Image, Museum of the City of New York, Jewish Museum, Museum of Design, Museo del Barrio, THe New York Public LIbrary, at least 40 more smaller ones.

Sites: ESB, Chrysler building. Central Park, Statue of LIberty, Ellis Island, The East River Bridges, Centra Park, Washington Square Park, Union Square Park, Bryant Park, Times Square, Lincoln Cnetr, Chinatown, Bronx Zoo, Central park Zoo, Brooklyn and New York Botanical Gardens, Jamaica bay bird sanctuary, Coney Island, The promanade, countless other things.

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that's a lot of museums. I like some museums. I wish they would just combine them all into one gigantic museum. That way I can just stroll past the exhibits I don't like.

	22-10-2003 09:11									#30
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Trump Tower

...And you have to see a Broadway play...buy the best seats you can in the theater. They'd don't cost that much more than the really crappy seats, and you'll enjoy the show so much more.